I should have you talk to my Canadian friend. I'll ask him and see if I can give you his phone number. It didn't take very long with him helping me and I cast farther than I ever have before. I blew right past the 100' wall like it was never there. Before, I could hit 95' or 100' on a real good day. Passing 100' was not a happening thing. When I tossed backing out of the rod yesterday I was giddy as ....... something really giddy.