That fish in the third picture is definatly a type of chub. The only reason I know is I was catching a similiar fish in a stream near me and after exhausting all avenues of research on it went to the DEC. They pulled out a chart full of different chubs just from one area! There are a bunch and you need an icyjyologist to get a positive ID. They all look very much alike!
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