Haha yep, those drum sure are a neat fish. Lots of folks here consider them trash, but I sure don't. They're awesome fish on the fly rod and put up an amazing fight. Plus, they got the whole numbers thing on their side. It's a great way to kill an afternoon. Crayfish and leech flies in size 8-10 work like magic here. They really do fool you as far as the fight goes. The one in the second picture had me convinced at first that I hooked into a nice-sized carp, and I was even using an 8wt.