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I have a Renzeti Master I got as a Christmas gift a few yrs. ago & a Nor Vise. I use the Nor for Streamers, Salmon flies etc. & the Renzeti for everything else. I've had the Nor vise for a number of years & never liked it, but hung on to it. I started using it again & still can't tie anything smaller than a 12 with it. I wouldn't advise that for a beginner. All the renzeti's are good vises, & so are the peaks, & Atlas's
My first rotary was a Griffen & that was a great low cost vise also. Just get the best vise you can comfortably afford so it'll last forever........