Thanks for your input. Time for a question. I was casting with about 20 feet of WF11 line outside of the rod tip. This should be about 220 grains out side of the rod tip and 110 grains inside the rod tip based on the head weight of an 11 weight line. The line inside the tip does add to the load. If I was double hauling a DT6 line with 40 feet of line outside of the rod tip, what would be the grain weight load on the rod? I am stroking the rod faster now with the lighter line so that is part of the equation.