Re: ugh im having trouble getting a vise
I can't speak to Griffin's vises. I've gotten over 8 years out of a Dan-vise and it barely shows any signs of wear at all. My best estimate is about 2000 flies during that time, ranging from size 22 midges to size 2/0 bass/saltwater flies.
If I bought a new one, it would be a Renzetti Cam Traveler with a pedestal, but I'm in no hurry.
Just looked up the Blackfoot Mongoose and it looks fine except for not having cam actuated jaws. The cam is an awfully handy feature.