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Default Re: help with salt setup

cidme-

Welcome to the board and good luck on your trip to the Outer Banks.

Cliff gave you good advice. Fishing in the surf can be tough if you've never done it. And at places like the OB, surf conditions can make it very difficult-- and of course the fish have minds of their own-- sometimes right on the beach in the wash, sometimes further out 200 yds sometimes not around at all. Also realize an 8 might be a bit light if you're fishing in the surf where wind in your face is the norm. In sheltered back bays and/or in a kayak, it is less of an issue.

But you're going at a great time, and good things can happen.

For fishing from shore, especially in the surf, having a shooting basket is essential. You use it to store slack line while casting, and "shoot" the line out of it, instead of trying to lift it out of the water. With strong currents and side sweep, even a floating line is tough to rip out of the water for a cast, an intermediate or sinking line is even tougher. It will add considerable distance to your cast. Orvis makes one for about 50 bucks, or you can do as i do and make your own out of a rubber maid dish pan and some shock cord. (Drill or burn a hole in the rim of each short side of the dish pan and put the hooks of the shock cord through the holes. You wear it around your waist, and can adjust the tension of the shock cord by tying overhand knots to take up slack if needed.)

As far as flies, Cliff gave you great suggestions. The time you're going should put you in the middle of major movements of many different baitfish.

Blue over white Deceivers size 2 and a few 2/0 imitates a range of baitfish including menhaden, mullet, small "snappers" (baby bluefish) and is a good all around searching fly

Chartreuse over white clousers size 2 with lead eyes-a good sand eel imitation and all around searching fly to puff along the bottom.

Bay Anchovy imitation size 2 and some size 4. There is a very good possibility you will be running into False Albacore that time of year. They typically run 12-20lbs and are blisteringly fast. They will be following enormous schools of bay anchovies- a small baitfish 2-3" long, as will bonito, spanish macs, stripers and bluefish. Good store bought imitations include tan or light green over white surf candies. Because the shoals of anchovies can be so dense, some small all pink ones might be a good choice too to make them stand out from the crowd. If you tie you can make some very simple and effective ones:

In order of tie in:
Hook: Mustad 3407 DT (least expensive), or 34007 SS a bit more , or Owner Aki (a premium hook) (i would lean towards this one for Albies)
Tail: None
Body: Pearlescent body braid like Diamond Sparkle Braid etc
Wing/collar: Sparse white bucktail tied 360 decrees around the shank (not just on top of the shank, with some pearl krystal flash for a little sparkle.
Topping: A sprig of brown bucktail from the top (or "wrong" side) of a natural bucktail or Ginger marabou about 1/2 the length of the wing.
Lateral line: a strip of silver flashabou on each side of the wing
Eyes- stick on prismatic eyes covered with several coats of Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails or your favorite head cement of epoxy.

As far as lines, an intermediate as Cliff suggested would be a good choice-- I typically overline it by one line weight (ie a 9 weight line on a 8 weight rod) .

All these flies are also a good bet for fishing the back bays.

Just be careful in your kayaks, especially out front. I strongly advise you to use tethers to keep expensive stuff onboard, and make sure you get a tide/current chart for the areas you plan to fish. Realize that tides will be strongest with higher highs and lower lows around and on either side of the full (Oct 3) and new (Oct 17) moons.

Good luck on your trip and again welcome to the board.

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