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Old 03-05-2017, 07:42 PM
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I've seen photos of the crowds on Ship Creek, for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want to fish in conditions like that. i can certainly believe that confrontations occur there.
It's because we are spoiled Larry.

As I said earlier the access to Ship is easy, and the fish are there. King run was well past peak and there were still plenty of fish to target. I went down there at the end of my trip for entertainment. Anglers were roughly 8ft apart. A little close for chucking a treble hook and that is what everyone was doing there. Like all fishing spots, with a little effort you can get more space. And the trout creeks running through Anchorage are larger than most of my Driftless streams by a margin. Gear fisherman in Iowa would kill for an opportunity like Ship.

At the end of my first trip to Alaska, on the way back to my hotel, Ard took me all over Anchorage showing me places he could pedal a bike to and fish. Literally a couple hours and I enjoyed the tour. I could envision Ard "making his own paradise" while working a day job at the time. I drive 2+ hours for water as nice as an Anchorage "city stream". I would never suggest Ship is the real AK adventure, because it simply isn't. But it is unique, and interesting, and for some, a fishing opportunity most large city dwellers would never see during the work week. The rest of us will fish somewhere else whenever possible.

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When I lived in Anchorage Dewayne the fall of 2005 I caught so many Silvers without leaving City limits that I had to stop for almost a week due to a swollen and sore right wrist. That was the year I began researching 2 hand rods. In all seriousness, if you were to have around 25 - 35 salmon ranging between 5.5 and 9.5 pounds grab a fly every day for a couple weeks things can become sore from strain.

First I bought several rods with decent fighting butts in 2006 & 2007 and then in 2008 ordered a 13' eight weight. Once I got past the intimidation factor of the big rod I never had another sore wrist.

Learning a system for daily success there on Ship Creek was not hard as you may think.
You don't have to convince me. A single King in the 10# range in the current was all I needed on the 8WT Imperial I brought the first year. Amazing how much easier it is to fight more than twice as much fish, with literally half the effort on a spey rod.
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Old 03-05-2017, 08:27 PM
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Ship Creek isn't fun. Saw several fights last years a man even had a gun drawn on him. I was threatened and the guy couldn't give a reason why. I was fishing and he invaded my spot and tried to push me out of it. I finally told him what I thought and he snickers and moved on. I look for somebody to get hurt there over crazy, senseless ****.

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I've seen photos of the crowds on Ship Creek, for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want to fish in conditions like that. i can certainly believe that confrontations occur there.
I have a theory on why no one ever bothered me there. The first year was 2005 and again in 2006 when I took a fellow from Pueblo CO. down so he could enjoy the show. He and I had so many laughs over things we witnessed there that the experience was priceless. He has a good and slightly twisted sense of humor very much like mine and we were still roaring over some of the characters we watched there months later.

Back to the theory, in 2005 I had no gray hair, in other words I didn't look like an old guy, I just looked like a 6'5" - 225 pound guy who worked out often.

There's a chance that coupled with the size, the way I look at people right before something is about to happen may have helped.
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At any rate, it didn't hurt that I just look like a really friendly guy, especially if you crowd me while I'm fishing.
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I've seen photos of the crowds on Ship Creek, for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want to fish in conditions like that. i can certainly believe that confrontations occur there.


It is spreading> i was fishing last summer down at Bings Landing. Was there with a buddy minding my own business when 5 guys come walking by. There was 10 feet between me and my friend and another guy just below me. They crowded in and tried fishing between us. I told them this isn't working and they just looked at me like they didn't understand. I walked to the bank and pulled off my jacket. Walked back. Had a 45 on my chest. A guy had already filled my spot. I went up beside him and told him the way I saw it. I guess he agreed because he slipped down a few feet. He caught my line the next few cast. I finally got fed up and asked him if he wanted to fight for the spot. I also told him if he caught my line again I was going to shoot it apart. After that they all left and went down stream.


People don't have any respect for others. They try to bully you around and I'm not the type that is going to be bullied. Alaska isn't the place most think it is. It is full of people that think they are entitled to any and everything. I'm so tired of it I will be fishing Idaho this year. Actually selling everything that can't go and moving at this very moment.

I can actually hit the mountains in Idaho and go out for a weekend and never see a soul. Here in Alaska that is impossible to do unless you have a bush plane. Not matter how far we are out there is always another person or group there.
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I have to agree with what you just said. Many of the places I fish are somewhat lacking when it comes to the numbers of fish present and one must work harder and smarter to catch fish. This is however a fault by design, being that I go many miles out river systems and often do so on rivers not renowned for greatness I also avoid most confrontations.

Every time I break from the aforementioned practice there is a problem. I have never fished anywhere else where I have came in contact with as many downright awful people on the rivers as here. That is not to say 100% of the folks I encounter are bad but the odds of the person coming toward you in a boat stopping right on top of you are quite high.

Considering that I have fished in every state with a wild trout or salmon population and in 9 different Provinces of our northern neighbor, what I've said is a pretty serious charge to level. It can be very ugly here if you run into the wrong people.
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Just seeing this post and I have to say that I've never been anywhere that there were more rude fisherman than Alaska. You know when you go to places like the Kenai or Deshka that there will be people around, but sooo many have zero ethics.

Last year my wife and I set up camp on a nice gravel bar on the Deshka. Got up early and started fishing at 6am. I was stripping some flies and my wife was drifting some eggs. At about 7 a boat came in and stopped right in front of us and dropped anchor. It was a couple of older gents and their wives. I was not a happy fisherman. I let them know that I wasn't impressed but they paid no attention.

At that point I put down the fly rod and grabbed my spinning rod with braided line. I proceeded to cast across their lines (they were backtrolling in the hole). I made a solid connection with one of their K-13 kwikfish and started reeling like I had a bluefin on. The fella started hollering at me something about one of us needed to give in. That made me reel and pump that rod even harder. After I unhooked him I again let him know how rude it was to do what they were doing. I had enough of it and my wife and I hopped in the boat and went upriver. We found another spot a few miles up that was stacked with very willing fish.

At about 11:30 we made our way back down and they were still parked there in front of our camp. We loaded up and headed out. I would NEVER stop and fish where others had already claimed a spot. Wouldn't even dream of it. It really bothers me when others are so rude when I'm just out trying to have a nice time fishing, especially with my family.
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Back in the 1980's when there were large numbers of King salmon returning to the Salmon River in New York State and snagging was legal It was actually worse than here Matt. The difference, if it matters, was that very few of the block heads on the S.R. were armed. Here I've encountered everything from the types you and your wife had there on Deshka to full blown meth users who are fishing. Toss in the Grizzly Adams with the .44 on a chest strap taking Nancy's spot from her on another river and I will agree that the people here make any others I've run across look like Girliemen.

It really happened, we had been fishing for an hour or so when we heard a boat coming. The boat came ashore right where she was fishing and five people unloaded and waded in. When Dirty Harry got right on top of Nancy I called downstream to him and ask him to back off her a little. His response was " Shouldn't that dog be on a leash?"

I think the knuckle dragger was making a veiled threat to shoot my dog. Boss had walked down the shore line to stand near Nancy when all these people showed up.

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Standing behind her just like he is standing behind the fellow in this picture, it is what a German Shepherd does. I have met many people on rivers here I wish I hadn't.
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