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Old 11-06-2012, 09:29 AM
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SALMON RIVER PULASKI NY STEELHEAD FISHING REPORT DRIFT BOAT GUIDE
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Monday - Got out early to get the spot. We were rewarded w/ numerous fish! Lots of jump's, runs.
My 2 brand new, inexperienced guest's played with over 10 steelhead while useing a combination of fly rod's and spin.
I even "accidently" (hehe) hooked up 3 while demonstrating. All anglers I spoke with over a 3 mile stretch (that had experience). Had early success in the morning, then it slowed to a crawl by mid-day. We experienced the same.
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A guide freind w/ 1 client hit approx. 8 Steelhead useing Eggs. My other guide friends 2 clients played w/ approx. 10 Steelhead useing fly rods. I also noticed Steelhead being played with above and below where we were. I'd guess approx. 50 or more Steelhead in our general area. Also saw numerous Steelhead in certain high viz. transitional resting area's mid-afternoon as we slowly drifted by them in the drift boat.
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Our heart's and prayers go out to those who lost their lives, family and friends. Also to the many who are dealing with and well continue to deal with all of the hardships this storm as produced.
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Water level has dropped to 335 cfs. plus run-off and most of the leaves are gone. We continue to see steelhead top to bottom of river. Very nice #'s!
Heard a day or so after the water came up the bottom of the river fish'd sloooow. My guide freind took a skunk and didnt see anyone else hook-up.
Another guide friend concurred. I think the higher flow sucked what was there up the river or maybe they weren't biting?
I'm find Steelhead in all the normal places lower-mid-up river. (Please see more detailed complementary info. in previous post's for tips and articles on Prime Steelhead Habitat, Current breaks, Etc..)
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After the storm:
They evacuated over a 100 homes along the lake as they had flooding - 10-15 foot waves crashing along the shore.
We missed the worst. Only wind, rain and some downed branch's. Was happy to have power.
The neighbors cat was outside our door in the dark, ok, waiting for some affection and treats, as usual.
Once in a while it leaves us treat's of dead mice on the door step.
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Humor
Today started as one of those relaxing, enjoyable, peaceful rainy days. The only thing that was irritating was when the tranquility of the day was interrupted by that darn whining sound of my guest's drag's. Then people would yell, Fish On. Come on folks, can't a guide get a lil rest, peace and quite around here? The nerve of some people! Then I was expected to chase after this 16 lb. Steelhead that kept doing these darn 25 foot tail walks across the pool, then these obnoxious somersault's 4 feet into the air with a big ol loud belly flop with water splashing 20 feet in all directions. I would have reeeeelly been upset if my hair had gotten wet. Then more speeding bullet run's until that bright orange stringy stuff (backing) would appear behind the fly line.
I just could not win today. Every spot I stopped to fish, my guest's would continually hook more fish. Out of 3 spot's my guest's fished, we hit them in all. I got so fed up that I finally stopped in a spot where no fish has been hooked in over 100 years, and my guest's were still able to hook some up. So much for a nice relaxing day on the water. I think I need to find a new, less stressful job, where a person can get a lil R and R.
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Fish Fighting Techniques for Steelhead:
(This one may surprise you. It's an oldy but goodie, from the Archives, Enjoy!)
Yes, that's me with the stupid looking hat and the spinning rod.
The first thing I did upon hooking up was to immediately get even or below the fish. This tires the fish out sooner by knocking it off balance and causing it to work harder to stay upright. (An exception to this would be if there was very fast water (drop in the river), deep hole that you can not get around, snags or anything below you that might cause the fish to break you off. Then I would stay a little above the fish)
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I see 95% of the angler's on this river never really load their rod properly when fighting a fish. This is totally understandable (as with everything else because if you've never been told or learned much of this, then it's all new. I certainly didnt know much of this when I was new and I still don't know it all. Most angler's only pull back 1/4 to 1/2 way back. In the above photo I am about 3/4 of the way back with the rod. Before I stop pulling back, the rod is pointed directly behind me with the rod horizontal and next to my ear. The butt (very bottom) of the rod is pointed at the far bank. It's hammer time!
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By holding your rod upside down with rod tip in the water the fish will normally, slowly and quietly come in without much fuss. By keeping it's head under the water the fish feel's much more comfortable and tends not to freak out. This at times can also be used as a stalling tactic. You will notice some of the more experienced Salmon River anglers inverting their rod shortly after the hook up. This greatly increases the odds for the fish to remain in the hole-pool and not speed off down river. It also helps by hopefully controlling the fish's attitude. Keeping it from thrashing around and breaking off.
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The above is an example on how many Steelhead are lost with the rod tip up. (If snag's or strong current's are around you then this would be the correct way) Notice the splash? Miss Steelhead did not like it when I pulled her head out of the water. Many fish are lost-broken off at this point.
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If you listen to the fish it will pretty much tell you at what angle to hold your rod. If the fish is on the other side of the river I always hold my tip high. If I held it low then the full amount of the rivers current would put an awful lot of additional pressure on my line and leader-tippet as it bow's. Many times resulting in breaking the fish off. If the fish is approx. from the middle of the river towards me then I always hold my rod tip just off the surface of the water down low or in the water. (Providing I dont have any real fast currents or snags.)
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The funniest thing about this picture and the above photo was as I was playing the fish. Anytime I had my rod tip up I lost total control over the fish. It pretty much went anywhere it wanted to. It also took much longer to tire it out. But, as soon as I put the tip low (down and dirty) or in the water. It came straight in at me. This lower rod position combined with standing below the fish will put approx. 3 times more pressure on the fish when it is within 60 feet or so. Tiring it out sooner and gaining much more control over the fish.
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When reeling in the fish with the tip up:
There are 2 things wrong with the previous sentence.
#1. I will sometimes hold my rod upside down with tip in water when bringing in a steelhead. Fish don't breath air and with tip up it feel's as if (which you are) trying to pull it's head out of the water. This creates a havoc, wrecking ball of nerves that sometimes ends with fish off. I breathe air, so if you put my head under the water you can be assured I would not be happy. (Same with the fish) By holding your rod upside down with rod tip in the water the fish normally will slowly and quietly (within reason) come in without much fuss.
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#2 Whenever targeting large species of fish the rod becomes a flexible lever. We never reel the fish in; we PULL the fish in. The reel is only used to recover slack line. Pull-up, reel-down. Now combine #1 with #2 and by George, you've got it!
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Nice lil 7lb Female Steelhead along with my Elmer Fud Hat. Whirrs that cwazy wabbit!
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Winter Lyes:
Mistake some anglers are doing presently.
Stick with 2-5 feet rippled water or the heat combined with a current break. (More detailed complementary info. in previous post's.)
Wait for Winter to fish the deep'r, slooower moving water.
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From the Mail Bag:
Time Out's:
Randy'
Thanks for the great trip. We have been steelhead fisherman for a number of years, and I might add with some success, but on wednesday we were students. Thanks for not giving us a time out!
John and Archie
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Multiple choice:
Time outs are something I "suggest" to all my clients when they:
1. Act up or miss behave, but are to old to spank.
2. Don't listen to me. (After I have "politely" "repeatedly" explained the same thing 20 times over and they continue to not get it) (You know who you are,
3. Casting into the trees on the far bank more than once, after I've explained that most of the time you'll catch more fish if your in the water.
4. Get snagged on the same rock 5 cast's in a row when its 20 below zero and I have to re-tie all those knots.
5. Put the reels in the water when it's below freezing, causing everything to freeze up rock solid and become totally non-functional.
6. While reaching out to chip the ice out of the guides they break the tip off my $500 rod. Making my 2 piece into a 3 piece
7. When stopping on the trail to re-tie their shoe laces and they set the rod down and break the tip off my $500 rod
8. While battling a Salmon they put their hand above the cork and explode my $500 rod
9. All of the above
Countless people have been guided by me and most have gone on to live normal lives.
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Stay tuned for more entertainingly informative and mildly educational reports and articles on this never-ending virtual fishing trip with your host Randy "The Yankee Angler" and friends.
I sincerely hope that what little I've been able to share with you will help you along the path to more enjoyable, safe, knowledgeable fishing.
Thanks for stopping in and spending your valuable internet fishing time here
Hope your all enjoying this great fishing!
Best Fish's,
Randy

---------- Post added at 10:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 AM ----------

Steelhead Salmon River Pulaski NY Fishing Report Guide Salmon River NY:
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Presently the water level is at 335 cfs. Lot's of steelhead around top to bottom of river.
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Oct. 26 - Water level is at 900 cfs w/ a lil Brook and Stream impute. More rain in the forecast from Sat. thru Wed. - Thurs. With the present uncertainty of the storm tracking this away, the forecast is uncertain presently on the amount we might receive. Maybe a Nor-East'a? I'd guess they will keep this current flow for now, but raise it even more shortly, depending. Heard the reservoirs came up 4-5 feet after some of the rain we recieved last coupl'a weeks. The level in the Lake Ontario is down also. With the coming rain and if the storm hits us, expect a ton of leaves and both reservoirs filling up comfortably w/ continued great water flow's.
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Few old and moldy Salmon still around w/ an occasional freshy. Most of the river has that old moldy dead Salmon smell. P-U! This higher flow should fresh'n the breeze a lot!
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All is great on the Steelhead front. Lot's around. While in the drift boat I checked out one of many area's where the fish hold during the middle of the day. (Transitional holding) It's length is approx. 1/8 mile long. From the head of the hole - run, it was LOADED! All I could see were SOLID Steelhead packed tightly together. As I drifted this section, it was 1 here, then 3, then 6, then 2 then 8 then more and more and more for an approx. 1/8 mile stretch. This particular area is what I use to gauge the pulse and or barometer of #'s of whats moving in the river, etc.. The very next day off the boat I noticed all new Steelhead w/ the same numbers. At least 100 Chrom'rs each day (in this one area) filtering up the river, spreading out. PLUS, all the rest of them in all the normal spots for this time of year, water level, life cycle, etc.... Steelhead average 8-12 lb's. Some honka's I saw were those 16, 18, 20lb'rs! Yesterday, every single chrome hold'n spot I could see, had a few to many! Ye-Haa!
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All Fall Steelhead water is holding, top to bottom.
Lil Tip: 2-5 feet of rippled water or the heat combined with a current break. Gaurrenteed!
Common mistake: Some anglers Ive noticed recently are fishing the Winter lyes, with poor results. (More on this subject later, so stop back)
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The lower river is producing 10-20 hook-ups (2 anglers) on Chrome almost everyday, as reported by a guide friend of mine. The Estuary has a bunch thru out and the anglers are doing well down there. The river has Steelhead top to bottom w/ more entering the system daily. The U.F.Z. has a few presently and expect more arriving daily. I normally dont target Chrome up there until mid-Nov.
A freind has been hitting them reeeel good in the middle river while spey casting.
My last trip:
In the first hour of the morning w/ 1 guest, he had already tied into 4 steelhead. Lets try this new normally productive pocket, first drift, fish on! (#5) New spot, see those Steelhead? Fish on and on! (#6 and #7) - Ye-Haa!!
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There really is no bad place to fish, providing you have the correct habitat. There is a lot of empty water out there. Being rigged correctly for the education level of the fish and most importantly, presentation, will find you on your way to FISH ON!!
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Presently, these Metal heads are on FIRE!
Torpedo - Bullet run's, water spraying off there backs, changing direction in a blink of an eye, keeping you on your toes and hopefully not on your back!
Running up and down the river to keep up w/ them is the norm.
Tarpon jump's, 3-4 feet in the air. Sometimes somersaulting like a jugglers baton before splash down, sounding like a cinder block w/ water splashing 20 feet in all directions.
Tails walk's for 20-40 feet will last in your memory for a lifetime. Dam, I love this job!
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Lil Tip:
Set your drags light and dont rush the landing. Most fish are lost in the first 5-10 seconds or at the net.
I always tell my guest's that its a lil nicer to still have the fish on after the initial hook-up, speeding bullet run's and jumps. You can always tight'n your drag after this ball of wrecking energy subsides a lil. Always expect a few more bullet run's as you get ready to land it. Dont force the fish when landing it. Another very normal mistake. Adreniline and excitment causes many fish to be lost, understandably so.
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Next weeks archived Tips, Pic's and Ramblings will be on - Whats the best way (guide secret's) to fight your Steelhead?:
This one may surprise you, so stop back
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Brown Trout:
The Browns are starting to move to that special rock w/ more daily thru the month of Nov.
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More Tips and Ramblings for Today:
Length of time any fish will hold (current break) while in transition is determined by:
(Varibles do apply)
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The #1 determining factor in the length of time any fish will hold in a current break is determined by the quality of the current break.
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What it had to go thru to get there. A great place to fish to any fish that are in a transitional stage would be above shallow rapids combined with a hole at the top.
They all want to rest after all the energy used up to run these rapids.
A hole is comprised of numerous current breaks:
1. The head of the hole at the drop.
2. The hole within the hole (this is like a magnet and also where many fish will hold thru out the Winter, hint-hint
3. The tail of the hole where the water moves slower.
4. Any boulder's in the hole that break the current flow.
5. The seam's of the hole. (Where the fast water meets the slow water)
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Rapids:
These are all comprised of small and large pockets that the fish will normally rest-hold in as they navigate there way up river. Normally, they are only in here for a short period of time. As they have one thing on there mind, to find a quality current break where they can be safer, hold and rest comfortably for a longer period of time, sometimes all Winter in the case of Steelhead. Many times I've guided these pockets for Steelhead. Hitting one shortly, then the next, for normally unpressured uneducated Metal. Checking to see if anyone is at home that wants to play. It's a fun way to cover a large area of rapids and is often over looked by the average angler. Kind'a like'a box'a chocolates, never know
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Big - Small Surface and Sub-Surface Boulders in a run:
If they are on the path that the fish are taking, normally they will hang out here. These can be seen visually but also sub-surface, none visual rocks. By looking at the surface flow will many times tell you what is sub-surface that you cant see. Many anglers walk by the sub-surface current breaks and allows you to find unpressured uneducated fish.
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Most fish use the current and the depth of the water to navigate the river. So any current break on this route is a prime resting, holding location that should be fished while we have fish that are in a transitional stage. We will have fish in a transitional stage all Fall, Winter into Spring. Coming and going.
(Lil tip: Normally during the middle of the Winter these transitional spot's slow down to a point where your odds are best if you stick with the prime Winter holding habitat, its what I normally try to do)
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There is a reeeel nice article below that talk's more about current breaks, Enjoy!.
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The determining factor in the length of time any fish will hold in the above current breaks is determined by the quality of the current break. Weather, bright sun or dark, rainy, over cast day. Angler fishing pressure. What it had to go thru to get there. Depth and speed of water. Life cycle. For Steelhead and Brown Trout, a current break combined with a food source where it feels comfortable and safe from predator's. Yup, as anglers we are considered a predator by the fish Visually and Audibly.
I laughed the other day when seeing an angler dressed in bright Orange. Maybe he was trying to blend in with all the changing leaves? (har-har)
An ol'tim'r freind of mine hates useing a bright colored fly line. Say's it spook's the fish, same as bright clothing. Another guide friend use's an extra long anchor rope so he can slowly and quietly drop down to the fish. Sometimes when sight fishing to shallow, spooky educated BIG fish we fish from our knees, stalking, crouch over when approaching, stand behind a tree, etc... Trying to blend in. Similar to hunting a Deer - Turkey or sight fishing those crystal clear shallow water light colored sand flats on Monomoy Island, Cape Cod to Stripers and Blues.
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Stay tuned for more entertainingly informative and mildly educational reports and articles on this never-ending virtual fishing trip with your host Randy "The Yankee Angler" and friends.
I sincerely hope that what little I've been able to share with you will help you along the path to more enjoyable, safe, knowledgeable fishing.
Thanks for stopping in and spending your valuable internet fishing time here
Hope your all enjoying this great fishing!
Best Fish's,
Randy

---------- Post added at 10:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 AM ----------

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The water level is forecast to be at 335 cfs thru today. We also have some run-off. More rain forecast for tonight into Friday. The Pineville gauge is reading 500 cfs as I type this. Still a few fresh Salmon running the river. Most are on that special rock. All Salmon die once they spawn, so I'd guess that at least 90% have reproduced and are now in Salmon heaven or on there way shortly. Boy, weren't they fun!!
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I've already booked some trips for next Fall and am already scheduling my days off. It sucks to be so popular (hehe
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Still a few anglers targeting Salmon, while we are seeing more anglers starting to target the Steelhead and Browns. The river has fish in it top to bottom, as it will have all Fall, Winter and Spring
Egg Sack's, Skein, egg imitation pattern (bead or fly) or a streamer pattern would be a likely choice to use for the fish presently. All presentational tec. working. Some better than others. Care to learn?
If targeting Steelhead presently, the first tip I was ever given was to fish water that is rippled, 2 to 5 feet deep. Everyday we are seeing more fish enter the river, running it and spread out, top to bottom.
I saw some sleet for about 10 seconds the other day and we also had our first frost. The leaves are past peek on the river and falling daily.
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Speaking of Leaves:
Jim Rusher, past owner of Whitakers Sports Shop and Motel on Rt. 13 and World Renowned Professional Guide and Spey Caster here and up North for Atlantics once told me. When targeting Steelhead in the fall. Never throw anything (fly or bait) that resembles the color of the leaves. If you were a fish with all the colored leaves drifting into your face, you might not want to eat anything that resembles them. Similar to trash being thrown in your face and avoiding it. Hmmmm!
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Monday - Sloooow for us, we had a small presence of fresh Salmon and opportunity. Started off by blind casting into a transitional holding - resting current break, then sight fished temporary transitional holding water - rapids, as some fresh Salmon made there way up river. Fished holding water as the fish stopped moving. Fishing the upper end. Few Salmon here and there running - holding, just not the #'s we were looking for. All fresh, no one around at all, entire area to ourselves. The higher flow of water had moved some of the fish around that had been holding, which is often the case when the water level changes. The fish just re-adjust to these changes, just like we would and should. Changing there use of the many different current breaks that we have on the river. Nice article below on habitat, current breaks.
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Next weeks Tips and Ramblings will be on - Length of time any fish will hold (current break) while in transition is determined by:
So stop back
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Mail Bag:
Angler posted:
I watched Coho and Kings leave the main river to traverse a trickle of a Pucker Brush creek for days on end.Why they leave the main river to swim in a trickle is the question.Could it be that the theory is that they return to within 15 ft of where they were spawned?If so,nature never ceases to amaze me.
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My Reply:
I'm guessing the males may have sensed a female, ready and waiting. I'd traverse a trickle myself for good women!
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These P.B. Creeks are loaded with that special rock. Instinct, biological clock, what is naturally ingrained from the strain (where they came from)
Ive never heard of the 15 ft., but never know.
When the fish go thru smoltification (lose par marks and turn silver at approx. 6 inch's) they imprint on the scent of that water. Each individual piece of water has its own unique flavor to which most fish will sense and return too. Just like a snow flake, unique, is how it was explained to me.
Molecular structure of H20?
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Stay tuned for more entertainingly informative and mildly educational reports and articles on this never-ending virtual fishing trip with your host Randy "The Yankee Angler" and friends.
I sincerely hope that what little I've been able to share with you will help you along the path to more enjoyable, safe, knowledgeable fishing.
Thanks for stopping in and spending your valuable internet fishing time here
Hope your all enjoying this great fishing!
Best Fish's,
Randy

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