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Old 12-29-2012, 09:34 PM
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I'm going to the one guy so far the bucks the trend here but fishing over the Maxima Cum Laude fish of the Pa Limestoners if your furled leader absorbs any water and throws spray anywhere near a fish you target say good bye. If you apply payette paste regularly it shouldn't be an issue but for me if the professor fish are looking up I get too excited to think about pastes and floatants so I switched back to long mono. All my other fishing, dries wets and nymphs, is done with Joni's leaders and I've fished Cutthroat's too. Where I think they shine is swinging wets and soft hackles, they're very sensitive and you can feel the subtle tick that sometimes happens while swinging the small stuff and gives you enough warning to make a mend and drop the fly back a little for a second take. That and getting deep without a clunky sink tip, soak it in Sinket and it drops like a stone without all the added weight and casting issues.
Good point WT about the payette. When I get a new furled leader I thoroughly coat it with Loon Payette. Then occasionally again when I notice the leaders riding low on the water.
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Good point WT about the payette. When I get a new furled leader I thoroughly coat it with Loon Payette. Then occasionally again when I notice the leaders riding low on the water.
I coat mine every time I head out, perhaps I'm doing it too often? Just have to be careful to not drop it in the dirt once it's freshly coated or it'll be coated in dirt.
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I guess maybe it depends on the leader (construction and material). I've never purposely added any treatment to my leaders and have never had a problem. I do occasionally use my leader as a napkin, if I've applied a drop of fly floatant to my fly, and end up with slippery finger tips, I'll run them over my leader. My primary goal is to clean off my fingers, there isn't enough floatant remnant to have any significant effect on the leader.

So do you guys treat your tippet as well?
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So do you guys treat your tippet as well?
In a word 'No,' well .... truth be told, the idea had never occurred to me. Low water skating flies for Steelhead; sounds like a darned good idea.
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I have some cutthroat furled leaders, 50" hi-vis nymphing with tippet ring. I like them. They will need treated with a floatant.
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Default Re: question about furled leaders

I have recently started using furled leaders on my 6.5ft 3wt. Because of the way I fish this set up, drifting flies from an upstream position on the small streams that I fish, I can't attest to the positive attributes of furled leaders in regard to dry fly fishing. However, I can say that Jaime Chriswisser of Zen Outfitters produces a great furled leader and is a pleasure to deal with. I would strongly recommend that you check out his line of furled leaders.
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I doubt I will ever use a furled leader. I make my own tapered leaders and they work fine. Every once in a while, I will buy a knotless tapered leader and then add a tippet. I often grease my leader with silicone boot grease when I want it to float for a long time....especially when using very long leaders when fishing with very tiny flies in still water situations.
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I doubt I will ever use a furled leader. I make my own tapered leaders and they work fine. Every once in a while, I will buy a knotless tapered leader and then add a tippet. I often grease my leader with silicone boot grease when I want it to float for a long time....especially when using very long leaders when fishing with very tiny flies in still water situations.
My question would be 'Why Knot.' Pun intended, bad as it may be.
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dpreller....
I would have answered this sooner, but I have been at various trade shows for the past two weeks. Away from the computer.
your question was..
ok so i think im gonna try some cutthroat leaders but im a little confused. i have used the search function but dont see the answer to my exact question. I do alot of fishing on tail waters finicky fish small flies, 12ft 6 or 7x alot . so im assuming the dry fly leader with 6ft or so of 6 or7x question is since that furled leader is fairly large does it spook fish and second will that long of a tippet turn over and allow me good accuracy seems like it would still not want to turn over and would make the fly kind of drift around and not land right where i want it.my goal is the most drag free drift and to eliminate having to change leaders after adding tippet a couple of times.

When a long 7x tippet is desired, I tell people they should tie on a length of 5x first and then have at least 18-24” of 7x tippet for the last section. 5x and even some 6x can be used when casting long lengths of tippet, but 7x does not have enough mass / material to turn lover very long lengths. I hope that makes sense. Of course standard rules apply, larger / heavier fly equals larger tippet size, so this is a generalization. The fact this system allows to fish a long length of 5x / 7x tippet gives amazing drifts. Please do not hesitate to PM me or send an email through the site.

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+1 to what Mike just said. If I have to add leader under 5 # test I'll also do a 'step down.'
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