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Old 08-12-2013, 05:31 PM
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Default Chasing the Ozy Salmon.

The seas have been incredably flat of late which alows me to venture out in the Pacific in my little bass boat to cast at them salmon.
They would have to be the most frustrating fish to please, tonnes of salmon sucking the surface for krill. But a hook up is sometimes hard. Others very easy.

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There have been a bunch of seals that are taking the easy way to get a feed. They smash the salmon that we hook. They steal many flys

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Sometimes we get lucky and land them after several runs into the back part of the backing. They are a great sport fish.

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Couldn't find anything on the net, what is a Ozy Salmon?

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It's Australian for Kahawai, mate! milt (Prolly should go in the Downunda or salt section tho)
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Default Re: Chasing the Ozy Salmon.

The same is going on at the mouth of the Klamath River here in Northern California. The guys that go out to get some King Salmon (Chinook Salmon) are starting to pull in lots of heads and the damn seals seem to know when you have a hook up and one tug and the whole fish gone! Damn seals. The problem is some lots of seals now are starting to follow the salmon up river and just gorge on salmon at the ladders of hatcheries. Oregon is starting to put them down because even catching and releasing them in a different area will not stop them! They come right back.

O well I guess its life.

Thanks for sharing and looks like you got one in at least
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are you sure that's a salmon? That head looks a lot like a bonito/albacore tuna to me.
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The same is going on at the mouth of the Klamath River here in Northern California. The guys that go out to get some King Salmon (Chinook Salmon) are starting to pull in lots of heads and the damn seals seem to know when you have a hook up and one tug and the whole fish gone! Damn seals. The problem is some lots of seals now are starting to follow the salmon up river and just gorge on salmon at the ladders of hatcheries. Oregon is starting to put them down because even catching and releasing them in a different area will not stop them! They come right back.

O well I guess its life.

Thanks for sharing and looks like you got one in at least
So true. Lived in Healdsburg (minutes from the Russian River) and the damned things basked on the beach right at the mouth of the river. For fish to get past them you had to have one hell of a rain storm to blow out the river. Even then they'd swim up the river to the diversionary dam that they couldn't get by (at least that I know of).
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Congregating seals have heralded the return of salmon and steelhead since I can remember. They are the least of our concern. The big threats are dams and clearcutting the tribs.
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Congregating seals have heralded the return of salmon and steelhead since I can remember. They are the least of our concern. The big threats are dams and clearcutting the tribs.
Yes this is true but the number of seals are getting to be quite over the top to sustain the numbers of fish. The fact that damns have been put in makes it even worse then the hatcheries actually make it easier for these damn seals to get food. I have seen with my own two eye seals come up the American River here in Sacramento CA and just trash fish for no good reason. Not feeding because you can see dead fish floating down the rivers.

I would venture to say that salmon numbers can get real big again even with damns and hatcheries but the damns will not let these numbers be supported. It sucks yes but I guess we just have to live with it since people in power don't seem to care to do anything about it.

My main concern has been that the seals are so packed out in the ocean that it gets hard for them to get food because with the number of seals (here in California and other western states) flourishing that they are starting to come up in the river system in quite some numbers. During shad season here on the American river one guide counted 14 seals in one days that he could see.

I think to argue and say that it has been the case since the beginning of time well I will say that the Natives took care of that. You see a seal in the river you know that was lots of food so why not take it down? I also don't think that the rivers were the sizes they are now with damns in place. So that would make it a tad bit hard for a seal to come up all the way here and not be seen by native tribes.

I guess we just screwed up nature to the point that to bring it back it will take quite the effort. Anyways to the Op sorry to thread jack! I did enjoy your post.

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Default Re: Chasing the Ozy Salmon.

I couln't find a "Downunda" section on these forums?
Saltwater, well yes.

The water here at the moment is very cold.

These seals seem to know that you are chasing the fish and will follow you where ever you go
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These seals seem to know that you are chasing the fish and will follow you where ever you go
The seals out our way know perfectly well what a fishing pole is for and if they see one they'll follow you around all day watching and waiting for something to happen
Two seasons ago when I was fishing out of my kayak I went from a deep channel up on to a shallow shoal and over 40 heads popped up out of the water behind me
Haven't fished that area since

This spit of sand was once known as "big girl bar" as it was an excellent spot to hook into a big cow striper.
Try and catch a fish there now
Last time I was out there, I played "tag" with a couple of seal pups.

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