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Old 03-11-2014, 01:00 PM
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Multiple flies used will disqualify an International Game Fish Association catch.

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[B]Multiple flies used will disqualify an International Game Fish Association catch.
I suspect it would disqualify us every bit as readily as catching nothing at all!

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a "cast" of 3 traditional winged wets
That casts up some memories Paul. Michael, it shouldn't be hard to picture at all.......... Pretty simple rig actually and once I learned to make my droppers at blood knot junctions the tangles were almost nonexistent. I used to dead drift hares ear nymphs and stone fly creepers as triple sets and did very well with them. I haven't fished that way since 79 - 80 but back when I was still into it they worked well. A triple made up of 2 Quill Gordon winged wets and one Light Hendrickson wet was a good spring combo too.

After the years with wets & nymph I turned to feather wing streamers for all my sub surface fishing. Now I use a mix of feather wings - Sculpins along with tube and Intruder style streamers.

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. A triple made up of 2 Quill Gordon winged wets and one Light Hendrickson wet was a good spring combo too.
We always used the same 3 flies.
Black Gnat on the point. Dark Cahill as the first dropper, and I think the second dropper was a light Cahill.
Flies of three different shades with the darkest on the bottom and the lightest on the top.
That dark Cahill is my favorite fly that I never use any more. Maybe I need to tie some up !
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I know a lot of guys tie the tippet on multi fly rigs at the bend of the hook, I now tie my middle fly on with an improved clinch knot leaving a long tail end. I then attach my bottom fly to the tag end. It gets caught up a lot less and doesn't seem to drag as much also faster less knots. I use a tungsten fly then a small unweighted fly under it seems to get caught up the least. I use poly yarn and make an indicator any size I like/need. Three fly rigs are too much trouble in my opinion but work if you can get them out without a mess. I try to visually check my rig every cast then check for problems every dozen casts or so especially if I'm not getting strikes. I think setting up my tippet this way my flies drift more naturally because the middle fly doesn't have tippet tied to both ends causing poor drift for the whole set up.
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"Anyway...opinions on spooking/confusing stream trout with multiple nymphs?"

Michael...if that were the case, those guys who practice Czech Nymphing would not catch so many darn Trout !


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Many times while trying to find feeding fish I put on an loud colored fly such as a sucker spawn or San Juan worm as the top fly and a more natural nymph or two behind that.It seems to get the fishes attention to take a look at the target flies you would expect trout to take
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When I was a kid, I learned to fish the way my grandfather fished and that was with a "cast" of 3 traditional winged wets.
You wouldn't dead drift them, they were actively fished either up and across on a tight line or down and across with a wet fly swing.
Either way the idea was to take advantage of the fact that your flies were in different levels of the water column and not try to fight it.
The "point" fly was the anchor, and along with the first dropper held the "cast" in the current. With the second dropper or "bob" fly you'd try to dap on or near the surface, making the flies dance.
We used long leaders and the flies were spaced by maybe 10"-12" on dropper loops.
Cast with a wide open loop, there are very few tangles
I read about this rig about four years ago in some FF mag and decided to give it a try for a season. It worked pretty well once I got the hang of casting it and learning to get the top fly to 'dance.' On the down side, many of the fish I hooked would make a mess of the rig during the fight rolling around. Many times I had to cut the rig apart just to get the fish untangled. Then spend six or seven minutes retying the thing. Which is the number one reason I stopped fishing the thing.

However, I did pull this system out last fall one time when absolutely nothing else I tried worked, and hooked up 5 browns on six casts, all on the swing. All took the middle fly, which counter-intuitively, seems to produce the least number of tangled messes during a fight.

Back to the OP, generally I fish a single nymph on a hopper/dropper rig, but on the rare occasions that I fish a bobber rig, I fish two, about 18 inches apart, a BB shot about 12 inches above the first fly, if necessary. Mostly I fish this rig just to figure out what they are hitting and the depth. once the fish tell me which fly is more enticing, I either go back to one bug, or tie on a twin.

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