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Hardyreels 11-18-2008 04:52 PM

Are you fishing for Brook Trout?
 
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Tying;

Hook: Your favorite streamer hook in size 2 - 8
Tail: Three small bunches of hackle fibers stacked; white, black, red, bottom up
Body: Rear 2/3 cream floss, front is pink floss
Tinsel Ribbing: Medium gold flat tinsel
Throat:3 bunches of hackle fibers stacked same as the tail
Wing: 2 Grizzly hackles with 2 green hackles over them. The green are painted with red & yellow spots down the quill
Cheeks: jungle Cock eyes
Head: The fly in the picture is very old (circa 1980) the head was built up with thread for profile and then painted olive green with a white chin. This can be much more simple, just use olive thread and finish it off. However I would not skip the spots on the wing, if you go to the trouble of tying these you may as well stick with Dr. Oatman's original design.



Since we now have a Brook trout Pictures thread I thought it time to bring this back. If you want to catch a brookie with one of the most traditional streamers ever made for them get your materials sorted and start working on these. I know you've seen this fly on the cover of magazines and in the books but have you ever used it for Brookies? They are a bit of a chore to create and a bit of a heart breaker if you loose one but I fished them in Pennsylvania's Slate Run for many years with great success. Admittedly many flies will work to catch a Brook Trout but these always seemed so right to me. You know those big guys are eating the little guys so why not tie up the Oatman Brook Trout Minnow for late fall and the spring fishing to come?

Note that if you're going to stay the course and make them true to the original you've got to paint that head olive and white. Tying streamers in winter is kinda like going back to when you used to build model cars and planes in winter when you were a kid. You did build models, right?

I had some time on my hands today and thought I'd try to stir the mix and get people thinking about the traditional fishing flies that started this all. This is an unused piece from my collection tied circa 1990, I have about 6 in my streamer wallet in various stages of being torn apart from the teeth of fish. Since moving to Alaska I use them in the fall for Dolly Varden Char, a fall spawner.

sandfly 11-18-2008 05:22 PM

Re: Are you fishing for Brook Trout?
 
Great fly for Giant Brookies in labrador, and Pike too..The brookies here are smaller..

Hardyreels 11-18-2008 05:36 PM

Re: Are you fishing for Brook Trout?
 
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Originally Posted by sandfly (Post 38865)
Great fly for Giant Brookies in labrador, and Pike too..The brookies here are smaller..

You'd be surprised how many big Brookies there are in your Pa. streams. The fly shown is a #4 and I never used under a #6. People think the Brook Trout are all small perhaps because they usually fish to the risers or prospect with a dry fly. If you fish a feather wing like this one well around the boulders and brush / logs, there are some 11' - 14' specimens to find. Not a whole bunch but then they wouldn't be special if they were all big. Try Slate; Cedar; Hammersley Fork; and Fishing Creek in Clinton Co. for some larger ones.

sandfly 11-18-2008 05:58 PM

Re: Are you fishing for Brook Trout?
 
sure on those streams, but most streams here where i am are all wild brook trout streams small fish.. of course on pine we get big browns..

Hardyreels 11-18-2008 06:39 PM

Re: Are you fishing for Brook Trout?
 
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Originally Posted by sandfly (Post 38872)
sure on those streams, but most streams here where i am are all wild brook trout streams small fish.. of course on pine we get big browns..

Where are you at? The streams I mentioned are not very large excepting Fishing Creek, and all but Fishing Creek are wild fish. Many of the fish in Fishing Creek are stream born but the hatchery affects one's ability to make claims of any one fishes origins.

I know that a guy caught that giant breeder below the hatchery back in 94' or 95' but all of my catches there were under 16". Slate has some big ones even up Francis Branch but the Hammersley Fork had it's glory days back in the seventies and prior. I caught so nice ones back in the mid nineties there but they were far scarcer than they were 25 years before.

Here the closest relative we have to the Brook Trout is the Arctic Char and the ever popular Dolly Varden Char. I miss Brook Trout fishing at this time of year. The Char sometimes can be easy but often in the smaller streams they are perplexing. I don't use the Oatman Minnow here for them, I use a Nine Three and if I'm careful not to be seen they hammer it. Never lament over the size of Brookies, some of us have none.

OldMan 11-18-2008 11:49 PM

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Brookies here will eat anything that floats by.

Douglas Wesson 01-14-2009 05:09 AM

Re: Are you fishing for Brook Trout?
 
Here in Oregon I've found that the fall after the first freeze is a good time to target brookies. Hosmer lake is very good and occasionally I'll p/u a brookie in the White Salmon above the lake.

sandfly 01-14-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Are you fishing for Brook Trout?
 
Here above pine creek canyon there are a lot of small streams, slate and cedar are medium for this area..

ksbrowntrout2 01-22-2009 07:27 PM

Re: Are you fishing for Brook Trout?
 
Great recomendation on this fly...I was fishing the norfork tailwater with some nymphs, and was really only catching smallish rainbows. I tied 3 of this fly before i went down there, and they did the trick on huge browns. I also caught two 3 pound brookies.

Biggest brook trout of my life,

Thanks HardyReels!!!!

Hardyreels 01-30-2009 06:05 PM

Re: Are you fishing for Brook Trout?
 
KS,

Did you take any pictures of those trout? If so post them on the "Your biggest fish on a fly" thread I'd like to see those babies.

As for the small streams of North Central Pa. Sandfly you just gotta try some streamers in those pools. Right at the head with a downstream cast, remember..........be sneaky. Slap it in and get er moving right away and you may be surprised.

Ard


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