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Old 02-10-2014, 07:41 PM
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Hey everyone,
I bought some new boots (Simms Rivershed) and I was wondering what studs I should use and what stud pattern I should use.
It's a vibram sole.

My previous boots I bought used and they already had studs, so I have no idea how to do this.

Anything will help.

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Isn't there a pattern that Simms recommends?

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Hi,

Welcome to the forum, I hope you won't take the answer and then disappear We love helping people get a grip on fly fishing here.

I have the Simms Star Bite or whatever they're called in a pair of the same boots. They are made to fit the pattern on the sole of the boot. I also used / tested the 'Grip Studs' brand and they worked very well, however they proved to come out under heavy use. In a 2 season period with Simms on one boot & Grip Studs on the other, I lost a total of 5 Grip Studs and None of the Simms Tough Bite star studs.

So....... the Simms studs are heading into season 3. I am getting another pair of boots this spring and will put the Simms star studs on those too. They do show a suggested pattern for them here; Stud Service

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I have the Simms Star Bite or whatever they're called in a pair of the same boots. They are made to fit the pattern on the sole of the boot. I also used / tested the 'Grip Studs' brand and they worked very well, however they proved to come out under heavy use. In a 2 season period with Simms on one boot & Grip Studs on the other, I lost a total of 5 Grip Studs and None of the Simms Tough Bite star studs.
Thanks for the input, when I saw those Simms Grip Studs, they looked like they would wear quickly, but I will read more into them.

Thanks again.
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Being the bottom of your new boots appear to be 'rubber' rather than felt you may not have enough the depth to use the 'longer' first two. The long shaft ones (just a guess) may be as much as 1/2 long and are normally used on the bottom felt boots.

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I just did a cut and paste of an image from a source like Ard posted into MS Word or something that would do the job and enlarged with a copier to approximate my shoe size. Then made marks with a push-pin.

I moved things a little to fit my specific shoe sole. Seems like extra steps but in the end this was a much faster and an easier way for me to be more consistent between the boots. This was for unmarked felt.
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The Simms star cleats with the Hard Bite are pretty good. Mine are doing well and they are made to fit the lug design of the Simms boot...........
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The new Simms boots should be marked on the sole where to put the cleats. Blew out my boots last weekend and purchased the Simms Vapor boots today and the sole is marked where to put the cleats.

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I have an old pair of Simms with Aquastealth sole. I only wear these for rivers and I also use hippers, so although they are pushing 10 years old they get used. Starting to peel so new pair maybe this year.
I have used regular stainless steel sheet metal screws with 4in the toe area, 4 in the heel. I broke down and bought the Simms carbide screws over 2 years ago. Still going strong.
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Just my 2 cents:

Try to keep the studs as close to the outer rim of the sole as possible (within 1cm of the very edge), and use up all the studs that come in the pack.

I've got the Simms BOA boot from last year, went through a full season like that and could tell the difference with the studs on the outside as opposed to the inside right away.

Depending on the rocks your wading over, having a sports-cleat-like configuration can actually cause more slippage. I like the sole to contact everything softly, but when there is a sideways slippage, then the stud kicks in.

This will also help them last longer as they only contact when needed, and your underwater noise level will be slightly better too.
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