[OldMan]

I'm joking. You're arguing.

I'm done.

[mojo]

Pete, Pete and rePete. You will and do sweat in breathables. Everyone does. You just don't realize it. That's why they call them "breathable waders" When you had your Orvis waders, they had neo booties and that's where everyones pant legs and socks get wet from. Neo doesn't breathe. I'm pretty sure you have the non-neo stocking feet don't you.
To most it doesn't matter about breathables. Whether they're from WJ, Patagonia, Orvis, Bean, etc. They all work about the same. Cabelas, Bean, Cloudveil and others use "Goretex" brand. There's a company in Japan that makes the breathable fabric and Gortex is included as a customer. I can't remember where I read it but Zach Matthews has an article on breathables. If I can find it I'll post the url.
You can spend beaucoup bucks on waders and more power to you. Pat's, Dan Bailey, Orvis (and I've had my guides for 4 years without a leak) Willy J Drynamic, Cabelas all compete for the bucks. Next pair I get will be the Patagonia's. I can't justify $500+ on breathables. That money should go to rods and reels.
FWIW as manufacturing goes, China sews them up, Korea sews them up and some get done in Mexico. But they're cut here in the U.S. and shipped overseas to be sewn up. I was in the clothing business years ago.
Enjoy your Simms. They do make a great product. My Guide boots (the old leather ones) are going on close to 10 years old now.

[OldMan]

This is where I got the info.

Simms was the pioneer in the fly fishing world, creating the first waterproof/ breathable waders in 1993. Today, Simms is unquestionably the world leader in breathable wading technology, building the most comfortable, best fitting, functional waders that you can buy.

Waders are, arguably, the most important piece of fishing gear that you own. They allow you to perform all day long by keeping your body comfortable. And when waders don’t work, you know it right away! That’s why the professional fly fishing guides that you see oaring a drift boat in Montana or wading a bank in British Columbia are most likely wearing Simms. These folks have to rely on their waders, day in and day out.

Utilizing the most advanced GORE-TEX fabrics and materials, Simms maintains the highest standards of quality and value with innovative design, construction technologies, and most importantly, skilled craftsmen. And Simms, located in the heart of trout country in Bozeman, Montana, is the only U.S. manufacturer. Their twenty or so competitors’ waders are all made in the same two factories in China. Of these, Simms is the only one to water-test every single pair of waders that leaves their factory. Trust your wading comfort to the leader; Simms.

[mojo]

Originally Posted by OldMan

This is where I got the info.

Simms was the pioneer in the fly fishing world, creating the first waterproof/ breathable waders in 1993. Today, Simms is unquestionably the world leader in breathable wading technology, building the most comfortable, best fitting, functional waders that you can buy.

Waders are, arguably, the most important piece of fishing gear that you own. They allow you to perform all day long by keeping your body comfortable. And when waders don’t work, you know it right away! That’s why the professional fly fishing guides that you see oaring a drift boat in Montana or wading a bank in British Columbia are most likely wearing Simms. These folks have to rely on their waders, day in and day out.

Utilizing the most advanced GORE-TEX fabrics and materials, Simms maintains the highest standards of quality and value with innovative design, construction technologies, and most importantly, skilled craftsmen. And Simms, located in the heart of trout country in Bozeman, Montana, is the only U.S. manufacturer. Their twenty or so competitors’ waders are all made in the same two factories in China. Of these, Simms is the only one to water-test every single pair of waders that leaves their factory. Trust your wading comfort to the leader; Simms.

And I'm guessing Simms wrote this.
Enjoy your breathables.

[OldMan]

No, it wasn't. I just wanted to show I didn't make it up. I did find out that there are two other companies selling waders that use Gore-Tex. I don't know who they are, but i'm guessing the price is equal to Simms.

btw The G3's are $399 and I got a much better deal than that. So, i actually paid less than the Orvis. Hard to pass up the deal.

Thank you. I will enjoy them.

You didn't answer me. Are you mojo at the Winston forum?

[Davo]

Originally Posted by OldMan

Waders are, arguably, the most important piece of fishing gear that you own. They allow you to perform all day long by keeping your body comfortable. And when waders don’t work, you know it right away! That’s why the professional fly fishing guides that you see oaring a drift boat in Montana or wading a bank in British Columbia are most likely wearing Simms. These folks have to rely on their waders, day in and day out.

I spend 80% of my guiding time wet wading. Why sweat your butt off in waders while rowing in hot weather. In the early spring and late fall I wear a pair of Cabelas Dry Plus. Had to patch them from time to time but the money I saved on those went to buy better rods reels and line. Those are the most important pieces of equipement!!

[OldMan]

Davo,

Not exactly my quote. I was quoting someone else.

On a personal note. I fish mostly at 11,000ft and up. I'm not really sweating, but more interested in protection from the elements.

[mojo]

Originally Posted by OldMan

No, it wasn't. I just wanted to show I didn't make it up. I did find out that there are two other companies selling waders that use Gore-Tex. I don't know who they are, but i'm guessing the price is equal to Simms.

btw The G3's are $399 and I got a much better deal than that. So, i actually paid less than the Orvis. Hard to pass up the deal.

Thank you. I will enjoy them.

You didn't answer me. Are you mojo at the Winston forum?

I didn't answer what? As far as I know, I'm the only mojo around. And yes, I'm magic. But don't rub me (mojo) the wrong way.

[wtex50]

Wow - seems like much ado about nothing very important. Waders keep ya dry - if they don't patch them or buy new ones. never saw a pair of waders catch a fish. I'm with Davo... I wet wade as much as possible...when I wear waders they are breathable...it's what you have on underneath that keeps you from sweating..I think Joni mentioned that...I couldn't agree more.

[yatahey]

If you can stand the cold, wear polypro longjohns under the breathables. They wick any moisture away from your body. Patagonia makes the best in light weight, mid weight and heavy weight. The Pats don't pill or retain body stink like the cheaper polypros do. I've always worn them during my 10 years of search & rescue here during the coldest winters digging snow caves, lugging injured people off mountains on stokes litters, and trudging up and down our 14,000 foot peaks. They always keep your body dry no matter how much you sweat or how wet your outter clothes get.