[Joni]

Originally Posted by Rip Tide

Back in the early days of graphite many rods were built with 95-98% graphite for stiffness and a fiberglass scrim for strength
Uglysticks were different. They have a graphite core covered with fiberglass

Exactly, I was just getting at the mix thing being old school.

In this picture I have the Eagle Claw on the right and the Griggs on the left. The Eagle Claw is all glass, but look close at the Griggs and about a 1/2" up from the ferrule is darker, I am thinking this is the plastic.

[fyshstykr]

You folks have me intrigued enough that I now have to find a "Glass" rod, I'm thinking of something for small to medium sized waters, possibly in the 8'-8.6' range in a 4-5 wt. Also thinking I would prefer to go with an "S" Glass.

I like to roll my own (so to speak) but the catalogue for 'Anglers Workshop' has very limited offerings as far as glass blanks go, can you folks provide me with a site or two, maybe four, that has a better selection of blanks?

[Joni]

That would be a Steffen Bro. ;-)

[arfishinbear]

Originally Posted by fyshstykr

You folks have me intrigued enough that I now have to find a "Glass" rod, I'm thinking of something for small to medium sized waters, possibly in the 8'-8.6' range in a 4-5 wt. Also thinking I would prefer to go with an "S" Glass.

I like to roll my own (so to speak) but the catalogue for 'Anglers Workshop' has very limited offerings as far as glass blanks go, can you folks provide me with a site or two, maybe four, that has a better selection of blanks?

hey check out www.mudhole.com,, lamiglass 60 percent off
And maybe www.jannsnetcraft.com
and MOJO turnt me onto a cool forum its at called www.fiberglassflyrodders.com
I have been playing with the idea of starting to make my own rods, with everyone else talking about i'm really thinking hard now, sounds like fun
Bear

[Pocono]

I like glass! My 7'6" Diamondglass 3 wt. is my "go to" rod for small stream fishing. Paired with a Sage 3200 reel and a DT3F line, it's a real pleasure to fish with. If the Griggs is a faster rod than the Diamondback series (S glass), then I'm going to find a way to try them out. I think that TL Johnson also makes a composite glass/carbon fiber rod blank; reported to be faster than the Steffen S. glass blanks, but I'm not 100% sure of this.

[fyshstykr]

Originally Posted by Joni

That would be a Steffen Bro. ;-)

Thanks Joni, Do you and Mojo have a local source for their blanks? or do you order direct?

I had fished a Steffan Brothers rod(Graphite) about 10 yrs ago, it was one that Rene had let me take and fish the 'Ranch' with. I remember it being a nice casting rod with one of the most beautiful finishes I had seen.

They are based in Arizona if I remember right?

[mojo]

Steffan Brothers (Arizona) glass rods are S glass.
McFarland (Pennslyvania) glass blanks are an e glass.
Lami's honey blanks are e glass. Lamiglas' Spring Creek glass series (rumored to compete with Diamondglass rods) are a little faster than the honey blanks but still e glass. The Blue Ridge series is a graphite/glass combination.
Pocono mentioned TL Johnson's (Colorado) glass, and it might be the Blue Ridge series made to Johnson's tapers and colors. I'm not sure though.
Phil Baldacchino’s Kettle Creek shop is another in Pennslyvania too. He has e glass blanks based on Vince Cummins tapers. Also has built rods for sale. No website, just a phone and fax.
One of my hero's Tom Morgan, has come out with a new e glass blank, I think it's based on his Stalker design and rolled by Kerry Burkheimer. And I want the 8'6" 7w so bad I can taste it.Think birthday present hon!
And you're all familar with Dave Reddington (new co. is Southfork Rod Co. Florida) is back in business with some graphite, cane rods and a new line of glass too. Lami's e glass built on his tapers called the Classic series. If you want blanks, you could call to to order them.
Scott has a factory glass rod out (expensive) and TFO has a new glass 5/6 weight in the Finesse series too. Not sure about blanks at TFO.
Diamondback had the Diamondglass series out that was a s glass and there's some blanks and factory rods out there that can still be found. They've discontinued the line. Lot's of people love them, eh Pocono?
And that's all I have to say about that.

[Joni]

Originally Posted by mojo

Steffan Brothers (Arizona) glass rods are S glass. McFarland (Pennslyvania) glass blanks are an e glass. Lami's honey blanks are e glass. Lamiglas' Spring Creek glass series (rumored to compete with Diamondglass rods) are a little faster than the honey blanks but still e glass. The Blue Ridge series is a graphite/glass combination.
Pocono mentioned TL Johnson's (Colorado) glass, and it might be the Blue Ridge series made to Johnson's tapers and colors. I'm not sure though.
Phil Baldacchino’s Kettle Creek shop is in Pennslyvania too. He has e glass blanks based on Vince Cummins tapers. Also has built rods for sale. No website, just a phone and fax.Tom Morgan has come out with a new e glass blank, I think it's based on his Stalker design and rolled by Kerry Burkheimer. And I want the 8'6" 7w so bad I can taste it. And you're all familar with Dave Reddington (new co. is Southfork Rod Co. Florida) is back in business with some graphite, cane rods and a new line of glass too. Lami's e glass built on his tapers called the Classic series. If you want blanks, you could call to to order them. Scott has a factory glass rod out and TFO has a new glass 5/6 weigh in the Finesse series too. Not sure about blanks at TFO.
Diamond is an s glass and there's some blanks and factory rods out there that can still be found. They've discontinued the line.
And that's all I have to say about that.

THANKS HON! You rock....miss you! LOL

[arfishinbear]

Man, how blind I have been LOL I never knew there was this much in glass rods, I knew about bamboo and graphite, I just thought glass was a product they used until the found the "better " graphite. I am gonna have to get me a glass rod or two and fish them some. There are days that I want to fire cast hard and then there are those days where I'm more layed back and easy going. Glad I joind this forum learning something new everyday
Bear

[Pocono]

Originally Posted by mojo

Steffan Brothers (Arizona) glass rods are S glass.
McFarland (Pennslyvania) glass blanks are an e glass.
Lami's honey blanks are e glass. Lamiglas' Spring Creek glass series (rumored to compete with Diamondglass rods) are a little faster than the honey blanks but still e glass. The Blue Ridge series is a graphite/glass combination.
Pocono mentioned TL Johnson's (Colorado) glass, and it might be the Blue Ridge series made to Johnson's tapers and colors. I'm not sure though.
Phil Baldacchino’s Kettle Creek shop is another in Pennslyvania too. He has e glass blanks based on Vince Cummins tapers. Also has built rods for sale. No website, just a phone and fax.
One of my hero's Tom Morgan, has come out with a new e glass blank, I think it's based on his Stalker design and rolled by Kerry Burkheimer. And I want the 8'6" 7w so bad I can taste it.Think birthday present hon! And you're all familar with Dave Reddington (new co. is Southfork Rod Co. Florida) is back in business with some graphite, cane rods and a new line of glass too. Lami's e glass built on his tapers called the Classic series. If you want blanks, you could call to to order them.
Scott has a factory glass rod out (expensive) and TFO has a new glass 5/6 weight in the Finesse series too. Not sure about blanks at TFO.
Diamondback had the Diamondglass series out that was a s glass and there's some blanks and factory rods out there that can still be found. They've discontinued the line. Lot's of people love them, eh Pocono?
And that's all I have to say about that.

Mojo,

Answers to the yellowed sections of your post:

1. Terry Johnsons' glass rods are called Synergy SG. They appear to be composites of glass and carbon fiber. He says that they're just within the bounds of a glass rod; which I think means that they'll be fast (which I like in a rod). They're also really good looking rods; in my opinion. Here's the link:

TL Johnson SG GLASS Fly Rods

2. After a 3 year wait, I'm getting a rod from Tom this Spring. It's his 7'9" 3 wt. graphite. I'm psyched for this rod! It will see a lot of time on the water. You're right, the new glass blanks are based; at least in part according to him, on the old Winson Stalker series. They are being produced by Kerry and I think that they'll be great rods; if they're anything like the Stalker rods. He's only selling glass blanks; not complete rods; although he said that he would build "a few" finished glass rods. Would make a great gift!

3. Yes, I really like my 7'6" Diamondglass 3 wt. rod. Personally, I think that they're making a mistake if they discontinue this rod (and for that matter, the line). It's a great small stream rod; I haven't fished a better one. It's what got me started in glass earlier this year. By the way, I originally purchased it at Joni's suggestion (along with the Eagle Claw Featherlight rod). It won't be leaving my rod arsenel for a good, long time!