[Lars Mat]

Originally Posted by Joni

Can't speak for MikeG, but I am far from a newbie and I can make 50' cast. You make a good point on the cones for the longer cast.
I CAN cast the longer, but for most of our local waters, it is not required. Plus I start 5' i front of me and move out from there in streams, rivers and stillwater. Most cases I can also walk out.
In Idaho, I will make the longer casts as the Snake can get pretty wide. Tried the hard plastic ONCE, I didn't care for the way the water hit and pulled on it while wading, but I am not a big person so to speak. Not saying the mesh held the line better, just didn't notice it in deeper water.
But, that is not being a NEWBIE, but rather, the type of water and area, if you know what I mean.

Hi Joni,
the term newbie was your own, I would never say that to someone I don´t know
You are absolutely right that in a lot of situations it is much better to make short casts and the drawbacks when carrying af stripping basket outweight the advantages. But under most circumstances when casting long it is essential to me .
I did not write about casting 50 feet but about shooting 50 feet af running line which correspond to casting 100 - 120+ feet.

[MikeG]

Originally Posted by Lars Mat

Hi Mike,

I am sure you can fish with a mesh basket without tangles - especially as a newbie because newbies does not make long cast (no offense ) But if you shoot 50 feet of running line I am afraid you will experience tangling of the line. This will also happen at times with a conetype basket but not as often.

Lars

Lars, not sure what skill level you are at but as a beginner I can shoot line pretty far. And never have I had tangles when shooting line from my basket. Here is the basket I use:
Charlie's Total Control Stripping Basket - Fly Fishing Equipment Online Stripping Basket

[Joni]

Originally Posted by MikeG

Lars, not sure what skill level you are at but as a beginner I can shoot line pretty far. And never have I had tangles when shooting line from my basket. Here is the basket I use:
Charlie's Total Control Stripping Basket - Fly Fishing Equipment Online Stripping Basket

Very cool basket....and I can actually fold those things up after wrestling with the tent for many years....LOL

[jclampwork88]

I've always had trouble with that type of folding. I use one of those windshield sun reflector things that fold the same thing. Half the time I leave it open because of the hassil. I've also hit myself in the face with it when it popped back out because I didn't secure it properly.

John

[jimw]

Hey MikeG

I was wondering if you have ever used the basket in the surf. I have always used an orvis with several 1/2" holes drilled in it for drainage, but when a wave breaks on the basket it can knock you to your knees(or down just far enough to get a gallon or 2 in the top of the waders) I bet the water would just pass thru the mesh without even feeling it. It may really tangle the the line?? Would like to know if you have done any deep wading with it or in the ocean surf ?? I think it would fit in my wader pocket pretty cool idea.
Thanks in advance
JimW

[MikeG]

Originally Posted by jimw

Hey MikeG

I was wondering if you have ever used the basket in the surf. I have always used an orvis with several 1/2" holes drilled in it for drainage, but when a wave breaks on the basket it can knock you to your knees(or down just far enough to get a gallon or 2 in the top of the waders) I bet the water would just pass thru the mesh without even feeling it. It may really tangle the the line?? Would like to know if you have done any deep wading with it or in the ocean surf ?? I think it would fit in my wader pocket pretty cool idea.
Thanks in advance
JimW

If you look on the website Lefty Kreh gave a review type thing on it about using it when saltwater fishing. But I have to say there is a drainage hole in the bottom of the basket and it is mostly mesh so I assume water would go right through it. I live in the Midwest so I do not get to fish surf too much if any.

[Lars Mat]

Originally Posted by MikeG

Lars, not sure what skill level you are at but as a beginner I can shoot line pretty far. And never have I had tangles when shooting line from my basket. Here is the basket I use:
Charlie's Total Control Stripping Basket - Fly Fishing Equipment Online Stripping Basket

I have never tried this one, but it looks quite big, which is a good thing regarding avoiding tangling even without cones. I can see good points in this type of basket, but I would never use such a basket when wading waist deep which is a lot of my fly fishing because then it will be in the water and of no use or it will block my casting.

Regarding shooting line, if you as a beginner can shoot a lot of line you probably have talent for fly casting and shall fell very lucky.
Most people need quite some practise to shoot more than 40 feet and even more to shoot 50 feet as this correspond to more than 100 feet casting. Try to measure 100 feet on the ground and then cast that distance. Remember it is the distance to the fly, not the amount of line that counts.

[Joni]

Originally Posted by Lars Mat

I have never tried this one, but it looks quite big, which is a good thing regarding avoiding tangling even without cones. I can see good points in this type of basket, but I would never use such a basket when wading waist deep which is a lot of my fly fishing because then it will be in the water and of no use or it will block my casting.

Regarding shooting line, if you as a beginner can shoot a lot of line you probably have talent for fly casting and shall fell very lucky.
Most people need quite some practise to shoot more than 40 feet and even more to shoot 50 feet as this correspond to more than 100 feet casting. Try to measure 100 feet on the ground and then cast that distance. Remember it is the distance to the fly, not the amount of line that counts.

With most lines, even with leader/tippet, 100' would put you to the backing. Round here, that point is bragging rights but not really used on water, no need.
Now Surf, I can see where casting that distance can make a big difference.
In Montana, during the Gulpers, a good 70' cast can come in to play.

I don't mind the idea of the line sitting in water, the reason I EVEN use a basket (when I do) is to keep the slack line from floating down river, then having to pull it back to cast.

[MikeG]

Originally Posted by Lars Mat

I have never tried this one, but it looks quite big, which is a good thing regarding avoiding tangling even without cones. I can see good points in this type of basket, but I would never use such a basket when wading waist deep which is a lot of my fly fishing because then it will be in the water and of no use or it will block my casting.

That is just it I never use a basket when wading waist deep. In my mind that is just stupid. I am pretty good at casting I been fly fishing for about four months. I picked up the cast and the basic fundamentals in about a week. Been fishing/casting every other day since then. I am not a big trout fisherman though, everything I target is either bass, pike, panfish, or walleye. My first salmon fishing experience will be this weekend for salmon in Wisconsin.

[Rip Tide]

Originally Posted by MikeG

That is just it I never use a basket when wading waist deep. In my mind that is just stupid.

Here's a shot from a couple of years ago. I believe I had waded out to fish a drop off.
In a case where the water wasn't so choppy, I might not have used a basket at all.
In this situation it wasn't 'stupid'