[GeorgeMcFly]

I just made a few lake erie shiner clouser minnows. I used bead chain eyes for a slower sink rate and white bucktail for the bottom olive and flash for the midle and some of the black olive mixed for the top. alos wrapped shank with crystal flash. heres the pics what ya think? of course these will ride hook point up also.

[sandfly]

over wrap the white to the point and back, also set the eyes back further so it swims like a minnow and not a jig..

[GeorgeMcFly]

what do you mean by over wrap the white? the whole white bucktail to the bend? I used krystal flash on the shank? thanks for the tip on the eyes.

[sandfly]

if you look at this fly the thread is spiraled to the hook bend then back to the eyes to form the under body(this fly is upside down) also its to bulky, tied for pike..

[GeorgeMcFly]

I see what your saying now. I will do that next time.