The North American Fly Fishing Forum


Go Back   The North American Fly Fishing Forum > Tackle Talk > Flies

Flies Questions about flies. What flies work and don't work. Complete fly talk...

Like Tree2Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-25-2012, 01:54 PM
attila's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 239
attila will become famous soon enough
Default Pellet flies ?

Anybody tie them for those put and take streams that get too warm in summer for trout to survive anyways ? What size and how do you tie them ?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-25-2012, 09:58 PM
Hardyreels's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Wasilla / Skwentna, Alaska
Posts: 11,777
Blog Entries: 70
Hardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to Hardyreels Send a message via Skype™ to Hardyreels
Default Re: Pellet flies ?

A hares ear nymph in a 14 should do for that, but I wouldn't eat a hatchery trout.
__________________
Anywhere can be the land of great expectations, broken dreams, or paradise found, it's all up to you.

Life On The Line - Alaska Fishing with Ard

The Alaska Fishing & Outdoors Blog;
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-25-2012, 10:27 PM
wt bash's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Akron Ohio (don't let that fool you)
Posts: 1,988
wt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant future
Default Re: Pellet flies ?

I'll second not eating a pellet head but a buzzball would do well. Its just brown and grizzly hackle palmered first wrap the brown hackle foreward and then clip it even with the hook gap then wrap the grizzly clipping only the top and bottom. You could omitt the grizzly all together and gink it to death or just fish it under film.
__________________
Oh I live to be the ruler of life not a slave
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-26-2012, 08:14 AM
Rip Tide's Avatar
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: quiet corner, ct
Posts: 5,620
Rip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Pellet flies ?

Hatchery trout are not attracted to a single pellet fly as such, although they may mistake your imatation for a bug.
What they're conditioned to respond to is the sound of the pellets hitting the water and the strong liver-like smell.
__________________
The simpler the outfit, the more skill it takes to manage it, and the more pleasure one gets in his achievements. --- Horace Kephart
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-26-2012, 06:21 PM
attila's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 239
attila will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Pellet flies ?

Good point Rip Tide. I have found stones and sticks in stocked trout though. Poor things don't know what real food is.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-26-2012, 11:03 PM
williamhj's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Denver CO
Posts: 2,719
williamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Pellet flies ?

There's a trout pond behind my wife's uncle's place in the mountains. The trout are a mix of stocked and wild but he's taught them to go into a feeding frenzy for dog food. I tried all kinds of flies in my box thinking a caddis or humpy might fool them but no dice. I've taken to tying flies from foam over brown or tan yarn covered with foam as well as clipped deer hair, still need to perfect it, but it was working. Do you know the size and shape of the pellets they use?
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2012, 09:24 AM
Rip Tide's Avatar
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: quiet corner, ct
Posts: 5,620
Rip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond reputeRip Tide has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Pellet flies ?

The pellets are cylindrical shaped of about 1/4" x1/4". Roughly the size and color of small rabbit poop. They smell strongly like dog kibble

I still have a bag of trout food left over from when I worked at the state hatchery.
One of my duties at the hatchery was running the state pay-to-fish ponds on weekends.
That was a fun job and I was privileged to observe fly anglers of all skill levels from first time casters to the expert.
A lot of beginners would come to the ponds preseason to practice and one thing I really enjoyed there was helping kids with their casting.
If I saw that a kid was struggling, I'd "chum" for him with big handful of trout chow to help boost his attitude.

Understand that it took a handful, not a single pellet
I had plenty of opportunity to test this theory.

After I threw in my chum, I'd have the kid cast his fly into the middle of the pellets. It didn't matter what fly they used. Dry or nymph, wet or worm. It only mattered that the fish saw it.
And the fish did see it.... They were attracted to the sound of the pellets hitting the water not to the individual pellet itself

---------- Post added at 10:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:04 AM ----------

I should add that these fish were not stocked prior to the seasonal opening of the ponds. They were all hold-overs from the previous season when any surplus trout from the hatchery needed to be cleared from their tanks to make room for the next season's fish.
theboz likes this.
__________________
The simpler the outfit, the more skill it takes to manage it, and the more pleasure one gets in his achievements. --- Horace Kephart
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2012, 02:25 PM
attila's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 239
attila will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Pellet flies ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip Tide View Post
Hatchery trout are not attracted to a single pellet fly as such, although they may mistake your imatation for a bug.
What they're conditioned to respond to is the sound of the pellets hitting the water and the strong liver-like smell.
Maybe I'll rig up a ten fly dropper Seriously though should they float or sink ?
__________________
...some men go to church and think of fishing while other men go fishing and feel closer to God

Last edited by attila; 03-27-2012 at 02:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2012, 05:32 PM
gt05254's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bennington, VT
Posts: 1,451
gt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant future
Default Re: Pellet flies ?

When I ran the American Museum of Fly Fishing, a gentleman donated some 16mm tape of Arnold Gringrich at his club, talking and fishing the "ponds" behind the club. He was emphatic that you really need to make whatever pellet imitation you're casting really slap the water, and there is footage of him doing just that. Not my cup of tea, but who am I to argue with Arnold Gringrich?
Gary
theboz likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2012, 01:08 AM
theboz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pocono Lake , Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,166
theboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Pellet flies ?

Right on the money Rip. When my son was small used to take him to a local developments lake on opening day. We would go right on the beach in front of lines of hardware and bait fisherman. The lake was stocked the night before and I'd have him get ready to throw a cast out as soon as I threw a handful of wet sand in the water . Didn't matter what fly as long as it landed in range of where I'd thrown the sand. Always caught plenty of fish then walk back to the car leaving the other anglers dumbfounded .
__________________
"I was born to fish" Lee Wulff
"There's more B.S. in fly fishing then there is in a Kansas feedlot." Lefty Kreh
" It ain't over till it's over." Yogi Berra
"Your not old,you've simply acquired a patina." Swirlchaser
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On














All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
2005-2014 The North American Fly Fishing Forum. All rights reserved.