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Old 07-23-2013, 05:28 PM
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I've never used ShooGoo. Does it dry as clear as the epoxy? If it's soft, won't it get beaten up when it hits a hard object?

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Hi VB. Product is used to 'repair' rubber boots, tennis shoes, etc., so once set its not going anywhere. And it stays soft and flexable, the whole point of the product. Rather doubt that fish teeth, bottom rocks, what-ever, are going to phase this stuff. Have 10++ year old set of Wellington Boots that are cover with this stuff and they're still going strong.

Where this stuff may bring bring something to the Party is fish tend to spit out (ASAP) anything that's 'hard.' The soft nature of this stuff may make them hold on a bit longer? And a huge tube is "Cheap as chips" as the Brit's would say.

Just a guess on my part.
Edit: Forgot to respond to a major question: In a very light application it drys almost as clear as Epox. A very heavy applications (boots) a very light tan colour. But the product, out of the tube, is clear.

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That would just make me even more mad at the tree that stole it.
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That would just make me even more mad at the tree that stole it.
Nick, Do you mean that you would be upset to lose them? I'm often slow on the uptake, so I don't quite follow.

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VB, Thats exactly it. I'd be upset to lose such a nice fly to a old fashioned tree snag.
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VB, Thats exactly it. I'd be upset to lose such a nice fly to a old fashioned tree snag.
Got it. At first, I felt the same way, because it took me a while to make each fly. I actually used my rotary vise to spin them by hand until the 5-minute epoxy set.

Now I have an electric wheel to put them on, and the epoxy gets evenly distributed without my pathetic efforts creating lopsided bodies.

With practice, speed, efficiency, and quality have improved. Now I don't feel quite as tortured when I lose one like I did with the first few prototypes.

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Where do you get the glass beads?
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Nick, Do you mean that you would be upset to lose them? I'm often slow on the uptake, so I don't quite follow.

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Very high 'Cool Factor' going on here. Can't wait for Ard's report back.

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Where do you get the glass beads?
Nick you should be able to get them at any shop that sells beads for sewing, etc. The thing you want to do is bring along a selection of hooks to try out 'the bend.' That's where you get hung up if its not 'round' enough or the hole too small.

If the bead hole is too large, not to worry, easy 'fix.' (Hook size dependent) Take 1 to 3 pound clear leader material and build up a base to slide the beads on. Head cement (the leader material) and you're good to go. You do want a snug fit.

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Edit: Forgot to add. You'll probably have to pinch down the barb first.
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Never done the Epoxy thing. Actually before this, never even seen same save for the heads on a few salt water patterns. But incorporating a glass bead into a tie really does bring something to the party. Things come round, oval, facited, long (for articulated ties, cut hook off at the bend-insert), etc. And almost every colour you can imagine.

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Some of the beads won't make the bend, while others in the same batch will negotiate the curve. There's some minor product inconsistency, and a little bit of trial and error.

On smaller hooks, I just lay down a little thread before I slide the beads on. I build up a small bump of thread at the hook eye to stop the beads and allow a little space before the epoxy goes on. The thread gets covered by the epoxy, so there shouldn't be any issue of unraveling on these things.

I have some glass beads I've purchased from fly shops, and some from craft stores. Each of the flies shown has five beads on it.

Ard's flies are size 4 and size 6 saltwater hooks. The barbs are crimped, or the beads would not have made it on there.

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