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Old 01-24-2014, 10:18 AM
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On my last fishing trip, we had one day that the bites were slow and light. I changed flies a lot. At one point I grabbed a soft hackle fly out of my box and slapped that baby on there. I cast it out and just as it started its swing it got hammered. No light biting or nibbling here, it was crushed.

I got a nice rainbow in and as I was attempting to dislodge the fly from his mouth he jumped out of the net and broke my tippet, swimming off with the one and only fly that I had gotten a brutal strike on all day long.

I don't know what the pattern is even. It is a very simple fly. I only remember that it was a size 12 or 14 and had a black body with a white spiral going forward. It had some sparse hackle, don't remember the color of it but I think it was white or a light color. I don't remember if it had a tail.

Does anyone have a clue what fly this was? I'd love to tie some and see if they will work more than just that one time. So far I am batting a 1.000 with that one....

Any help will be appreciated.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:08 AM
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Dude, I've been googling for hours. The closest thing I have found is a Zebra Midge Soft Hackle. This was on a straight hook though. Worst case, I can just tie what I can remember. I'm thinking a black floss body with a white floss spiral wrap and then some kind of soft hackle. Pretty sure that is all there was to it.
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Worst case, I can just tie what I can remember. I'm thinking a black floss body with a white floss spiral wrap and then some kind of soft hackle. Pretty sure that is all there was to it.
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I can't say that I know the name of the fly so I'm no help there to you but give it a lot of thought and tie something similar to it. My guess is that it will work.

One thing I have found myself doing, when I buy flies, I buy multiples (3+ at a time) so that if I'm in the position where one fly works incredibly well I have others to fall back on. When I get down to one fly...I save it and try something else. That way I have a reference for myself so that I can sit down at the vise and tie some up. I guess that makes me somewhat of a hoarder of sorts?
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:17 AM
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Yeah, it was pretty much just the classic soft hackle pattern in black and white. Duh!

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I can't say that I know the name of the fly so I'm no help there to you but give it a lot of thought and tie something similar to it. My guess is that it will work.

One thing I have found myself doing, when I buy flies, I buy multiples (3+ at a time) so that if I'm in the position where one fly works incredibly well I have others to fall back on. When I get down to one fly...I save it and try something else. That way I have a reference for myself so that I can sit down at the vise and tie some up. I guess that makes me somewhat of a hoarder of sorts?
That makes perfect sense. But I have no recollection of ever buying this fly. I don't know if someone gave it to me or I got it extra in an order from somewhere or what. I usually buy several when I buy them. This was just one of those oddball things.
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Not easy to answer your question have a look herehttp://www.stripersonline.com/t/875372/a-smidge-of-midge......Try to tie a some flies which look like the one you had ....but not sure it'll work next time you go fishing...some flies regularly work others ...once in your life
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That makes sense Mike. I have plenty of those types of flies in my boxes too. Too bad this one magic fly was one of them.

If I were in your position, what would happen to me is, I'd tie up something similar or even locate the actual pattern and then end up with a surplus because they'd not take it again
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Not easy to answer your question have a look herehttp://www.stripersonline.com/t/875372/a-smidge-of-midge......Try to tie a some flies which look like the one you had ....but not sure it'll work next time you go fishing...some flies regularly work others ...once in your life
That has happened to me before. But all the talk about soft hackles lately and then having the first one I tie on this year get the stuffing knocked out of it makes me think that I should be carrying a few.

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That makes sense Mike. I have plenty of those types of flies in my boxes too. Too bad this one magic fly was one of them.

If I were in your position, what would happen to me is, I'd tie up something similar or even locate the actual pattern and then end up with a surplus because they'd not take it again
That's probably how it will go for me. But it is always impressive to have lots of different flies in the box!
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Does anyone have a clue what fly this was? I'd love to tie some and see if they will work more than just that one time. So far I am batting a 1.000 with that one....

Any help will be appreciated.
If you are like me, you'll tie up a couple of dozen and they will never work again.

When my friend Jim Greenlee and I used to go to the San Juan, I'd bring my fly tying kit so I could tie up the hot fly of the day at night for the next day. He would kid me that I always had the hot fly, just a day late!!
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