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Old 07-30-2009, 02:01 PM
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Default Spey rod technics wqith two handed rod

I have a Temple fork Ti Crx with the two hanbed rod conversion. This shoots alot of line as a two handed overhead rod. Does anyone use a two handed rod with a spey line and spey casting. I realise a two handed rod and spey rod are not the same thing. Mine is a fast tip rod and not the normal slower action that most spey rods are. The main point in this use is for rivers with little back casting room and I just think the spey casts look cool and something I would like to learn just to expand my fishing.
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Hi Gar

There is no such thing as a spey casting rod. This is a marketing invention. All rods can spey cast - in fact - non can - it is the person that spey casts not the rod :-)

I really never overhead cast with any rod on a river, but I overhead on a lake or sea shore (but not on a boat).

It really does not matter if your rod is soft or as stiff as a broom handle you can overhead or you can spey cast. Single-handed or double.

When done well the spey cast is beautiful, safe and effortless. I strongly suggest you learn as it will bring joy. with or without fish.

Forget the rod - the line is more important when you are learning. I suggest you use a heavier line than than the rod is rated for, and dont have much line out from the rod tip. (perhaps rod length x 3).

It's just like riding a bike - easy when you know how!

One big tip - keep your elbows close to your body at all times - especially in the early stages of your learning. A rule that's a bit like breaking your wrists on the overhead. Break it when you know how - but not before!

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I throw a ten weight pike taper with this rod. Is it worth the 70 bucks for a spey taper to do this?
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I throw a ten weight pike taper with this rod. Is it worth the 70 bucks for a spey taper to do this?
I'm not familiar with the pike taper, but if it is a heavy-ish, weight-forward with a head length of say over 30 feet (for a 10ft rod) then you are good to go.

Ultimately you may benefit from specialist lines but essentially these are simply long-belly weight forward lines and even these vary in taper and head length widely! It's a confusing business which makes it really interesting, but I suggest you keep it simple at first. Technique is more important than tackle. Always.

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Hi Gar,

Here is a DVD that will make everything about Spey casting much easier. It runs $35 but you get over three hours of information.

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The Art Of Spey Casting For Single- And Double-Handed Rods

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Jeffery Pill. Learn the basic and advanced Spey casting techniques for both single and two-handed rods. Watch and learn as 17 of the world's best casters share their styles and skills through multi-camera coverage of easy-to-follow demonstrations on rivers in actual fishing situations. Chapters include 13 demonstrations of Spey casting techniques plus six bonus chapters. DVD, 3 hours 30 minutes
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Default Re: Spey rod technics wqith two handed rod

Regular fly lines like the pike taper do not work well in a spey rod. You should get a real spey line. It is also important to match the line to the rod and also match the weight of the reel to the rod. It is a vastly differant kind of casting from a single hand rod. I would contact a shop that specializes in two hand rods and get as much advice from them as possible before getting a line or a reel. The Red Shed is likely the best source there. http://www.redshedflyshop.comIf you ask spey people what the best DVD for learning spey casting is they almost universally say the Rio video is best. The cast I had the most trouble with was the Jelly Roll at 1:05 in this trailer for the DVD
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