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Old 06-07-2010, 04:07 PM
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I am having an issue with my forward cast. Once in awhile my leader/fly with hit my fly line on the forward cast. I'm not sure why this is or there is even an explination but I thought I would ask here to see if anyone has experience with this. Any info on why this is and how I could fix it would be great. Thanks everyone!

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Sounds like a tailing loop problem. Slow down a bit on your strokes. Let that back cast stretch out completely before pushing your forward stroke. Too often we tend to snap that arm forward without the cast straightening behind us and it results in a tailing loop which, in turn, results in some new knots in your previously knotless leader.

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Thanks for the info, I will try to slow it down a bit, maybe over exagerate my back cast hold to see what that does too. I'm not sure what a tailing loop looks like but I have been hearing alot about them. Thanks again.

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Sounds like a tailing loop problem. Slow down a bit on your strokes. Let that back cast stretch out completely before pushing your forward stroke. Too often we tend to snap that arm forward without the cast straightening behind us and it results in a tailing loop which, in turn, results in some new knots in your previously knotless leader.

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I'd also bet a tailing loop is the cause. Another fix is to accelerate more gradually through the stroke. Pushing too hard too early overloads the rod and it will start to come out of its bend before you want it to, causing the rod tip to follow a concave path-
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If you are moving the rod forward and backward on exact ally the same plane it is not an unusual phenomena for the line to be trailing along its own course. A slight alteration in the pitch of your wrist will alleviate the problem. Timing / line speed etc. are factors that influence the cast but the plane of travel at the rod tip is most often the culprit when the fly is either hooking into the line or striking the rod tip.
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I'd also bet a tailing loop is the cause. Another fix is to accelerate more gradually through the stroke. Pushing too hard too early overloads the rod and it will start to come out of its bend before you want it to, causing the rod tip to follow a concave path-
This is the problem I see most frequently... a poor application of power.
As Cliff says, power late instead of early to help prevent the rod tip path from going concave on you.
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oh, what a grand thread. thanks- its maddening when you can lay out a line line lefty, then two casts later have a ball of lineleadertippet wad drop just in front of you...
I think fatigue in my case lent to some wind knots last night.
Windy, I mean windy! last night, 3 hours of paddling canoe, casting took its toll.

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I just keep adding sabikki rigs to those knots.
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Thanks for the info, I will try to slow it down a bit, maybe over exagerate my back cast hold to see what that does too. I'm not sure what a tailing loop looks like but I have been hearing alot about them. Thanks again.

- Jonathan
Jonathan,

Try standing in a 3/4 stance when you cast. It will allow you to easily watch both your back cast and your forward cast; watching the line will help you manage your casting stroke successfully. If you're generating tailing loops, then you'll be able to see them clearly when you start to apply power to the forward cast.

As others have said, once your line has straightened our on your back cast, start the acceleration on your forward cast more slowly and finish up with a strong, crisp stop. The same thing goes for the back cast; the forward cast and the back cast should pretty much mirror each other.

If you're having trouble "feeling" the line on your casts, then either go to a medium action rod or overline by one weight. Both will increase "feel", which can be useful in overcoming casting problems, like tailing loops.

Good luck!

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