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Old 06-24-2011, 11:12 PM
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flailing 70' across the stream just to get your fly "over there" and in the general vicinity of a rising fish is a foolish waste of time.
Don't tell Bill Rez that! One of the most memorable fish I ever had the pleasure of witnessing being caught was at about 70' by Bill. We were at the Madison in the park and things had settled down to almost no rises. In a 3' tunnel of logs we saw a nice fish rise consistantly. Bill asked if I saw him then I said 'go for it'. Bill was using a Winston 4 weight of all things with no way to wade closer to the rising fish. In the pure grace that is Bill casting he knew the drift would be good for maybe one second before the fly would start skating. That forced him to put the fly in an area probably smaller than a pie plate and to time the rise. As if in slow motion Bill made the most beautiful cast right on target and right on time and landed that fish. Sometimes me thinks absolutes have no place in fly fishing.
That, my friend, is one of the pure joys of fishing not only with a top-notch fisherman but with a top-notch fly caster.
Sorry for the length but your post brought this of many similiar incidents to mind.

Another thought on the benefits of being able to cast long is that it is near impossible without tight loops. Tight loops come in handy not only for wind and distance but when you have to tuck a back or forward cast loop into a tiny rhodo tunnel. You don't generally get good distance with wide, sloppy loops but you can get more tree's with them!

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Old 06-24-2011, 11:27 PM
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I have done 130 feet with a 8wt with shooting head setup. and using a 15 foot 2 hander hit the 200 foot mark with a shooting setup on grass. those are the extreme. I can and do cast up to 100 foot all the time. Have put a 6'6" 2 wt out to 80 foot too. most is for my own desire to do so.
Did you put a tape to those casts? If you can actually do that then you are one of the best casters on the planet. Steve Rajeff holds the record in the US for a 2 hand rod at 290. Most casting contests are won with casts of less than 200. Those are done with very long belly lines. Single hand casts are far less. Most contests won with less than 130. I saw Steve Rajeff on video win a contest with a 126'er. 80' on a 6-6 2wt is mind boggeling.
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:46 AM
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Did you put a tape to those casts? If you can actually do that then you are one of the best casters on the planet. Steve Rajeff holds the record in the US for a 2 hand rod at 290. Most casting contests are won with casts of less than 200. Those are done with very long belly lines. Single hand casts are far less. Most contests won with less than 130. I saw Steve Rajeff on video win a contest with a 126'er. 80' on a 6-6 2wt is mind boggeling.
Yes on a casting area. like I said I have done it, not everyday but have done it. measured. The 8wt. was easy with 100' of shooting line and 30' of lead core I would put the backing out of the tip. over hand spey was done on a measured casting lawn, only hit it twice but did it. 2wt. can be done but conditions have to be right. (wind etc.) i have seen steve cast and have cast with lefty kreh. I teach casting.
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I have the same opinion of many others here:

As Randy said:
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as we improve our ability to cast farther and farther, making shorter casts becomes less and less tiring.
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Another thought on the benefits of being able to cast long is that it is near impossible without tight loops.
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The ability to make long cast is needed to just make an average 40 foot cast when the wind is blowing against your cast.
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A well placed fly is VERY important but who doesn't like to see line shooting through their guides?
The the last I would add that a totally flat, fishless day can be turned into a great casting day once it becomes apparant that no fish are going to show.

Many of the skittish saltwater species in the Keys are not catchable on flat days with casts of 35 or 40 feet unless you are wading. But try to catch up to them while wading if they are not headed directly toward you, without them knowing you are there. Others will often follow the fly for an agonizing distance before biting.

But there are rarely flat days here during the height of the tarpon migration. This year, for instance, the average wind speed for the prime three week period was 17 knots or about 19 mph. Many days it was blowing 30. Even casting with winds like these requires good, tight backcast loops.

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Don't tell Bill Rez that! One of the most memorable fish I ever had the pleasure of witnessing being caught was at about 70' by Bill. We were at the Madison in the park and things had settled down to almost no rises. In a 3' tunnel of logs we saw a nice fish rise consistantly. Bill asked if I saw him then I said 'go for it'. Bill was using a Winston 4 weight of all things with no way to wade closer to the rising fish. In the pure grace that is Bill casting he knew the drift would be good for maybe one second before the fly would start skating. That forced him to put the fly in an area probably smaller than a pie plate and to time the rise. As if in slow motion Bill made the most beautiful cast right on target and right on time and landed that fish. Sometimes me thinks absolutes have no place in fly fishing.
That, my friend, is one of the pure joys of fishing not only with a top-notch fisherman but with a top-notch fly caster.
Sorry for the length but your post brought this of many similiar incidents to mind.

Another thought on the benefits of being able to cast long is that it is near impossible without tight loops. Tight loops come in handy not only for wind and distance but when you have to tuck a back or forward cast loop into a tiny rhodo tunnel. You don't generally get good distance with wide, sloppy loops but you can get more tree's with them!

There ain't no downside to casting well.
After all, casting is an integral part of fly fishing.
Great story, Jackster - that must have been one helluva sight to witness.

It is also the exact opposite of what I meant. My point was that casting long distance just for the sake of distance is futile unless you have the supreme ability to do just what your friend Bill did.

This thread was just starting to turn into a brag board about how far one can cast a ___ wt line with a ___ length rod, and I was ready to abandon it. But you brought it to life with a story of a perfect cast to catch a fish of a lifetime. Because size does not always mean "lifetime" fish. Many of my memories of the "best" fishing I've done is because of making the perfect cast, drift just when needed. Thanks for sharing one of your perfect fishing memories.
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As I have been trying different methods by myself but not good. Also please give me dimensions when and where should i connect them. Please help.
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As I have been trying different methods by myself but not good. Also please give me dimensions when and where should i connect them. Please help.
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This quote plus your avitar just made me laugh out loud in my office. Thanks for the good start to a work day Mojo!
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This quote plus your avitar just made me laugh out loud in my office. Thanks for the good start to a work day Mojo!
I never noticed until you posted that. Glad it was a good start to your day.
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