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nickj 07-06-2011 09:18 AM

Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
Lots of threads here and everywhere about distance and style. Doesn't anyone fish in the brush anymore? A large percentage of my casting is done from my knees, from behind rocks and logs, under overhanging trees, sometimes casting more leader than line. I caught a nice brown last week; it was in a run about two feet wide, between a rock and the shore, under trees. I had to cast over a low branch and hang the line on that branch to get the fish. I wear kneepads to fish...not a lot of distance and style. Anyone else?

Jackster 07-06-2011 12:30 PM

Re: Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
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Originally Posted by nickj (Post 282323)
Lots of threads here and everywhere about distance and style. Doesn't anyone fish in the brush anymore? A large percentage of my casting is done from my knees, from behind rocks and logs, under overhanging trees, sometimes casting more leader than line. I caught a nice brown last week; it was in a run about two feet wide, between a rock and the shore, under trees. I had to cast over a low branch and hang the line on that branch to get the fish. I wear kneepads to fish...not a lot of distance and style. Anyone else?

I used to love that stuff. Age and health prevent it now, dangit!
One of the best things I used, besides my trusty Scott 'G' - 6'10", 3 weight, was the use of thread-based furled leaders. Very sweet when there wasn't room to have little to any fly line out past the rod tip.

Hardyreels 07-06-2011 01:24 PM

Re: Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
Hi Nick,

Unconventional casting is my forte' I've been doing what you're talking about since I was a kid. Now I salmon fish using a 13' rod but can't enter into casting discussions because I don't concentrate on distance or exotic casts. I specialize in casting to specific targets and then controlling the fly so that I catch fish. I still do some bushwhacking for trout every season just to keep me honest but spend more time sneaking up on salmon. It's pretty much the same as the old trout sneak & peak but I don't get into any small water for them. A small spot now is about 40' wide but if you don't hug the shore and keep a low profile you won't catch any fish so not much has changed.

Ard

jpbfly 07-06-2011 03:10 PM

Re: Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
You're right not to worry about that...I really don't care about style and distance....being able to cast your fly or nymph where you want is what matters.I love fishing sections where most people think it's impossible to flyfish and try to cast a fly on the most difficult spots...for that there's an amazing number of different castings you won't see in books or videos...not always stylish but efficient:)

Rip Tide 07-06-2011 04:33 PM

Re: Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
One of my favorite rods is an old fiberglass 6'6" Wright&McGill Featherlight.
It's rated for a HEH (5DT) line, but even with a 4WF or even a 3DT this rod will load with only the leader and a foot of line out of the tip-top.
That makes for some close-up casting.
I can even cast it accurately sidearm while "choking-up", holding the reel/grip behind my back.
There's lots of little streams around here where fishing that way is the only way to go.

madjoni 07-06-2011 05:41 PM

Re: Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
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Originally Posted by nickj (Post 282323)
A large percentage of my casting is done from my knees, from behind rocks and logs, under overhanging trees, sometimes casting more leader than line.

That is story of my life Nick:) I do it very day :thmbup:

milt spawn 07-06-2011 06:47 PM

Re: Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
As long as my fly doesn't hook me in the ear on a bow and arrow cast I'm alright. Check out Hardyreels "Small Stream Stories" thread under Coldwater. I still consider myself an unstylish, unconventional caster after years of fly fishing... and don't even mention mending. milt.

nickj 07-06-2011 06:53 PM

Re: Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
It's nice to hear I'm not alone. And I do know about those small Connecticut streams, that's where I grew up.

Hardyreels 07-06-2011 07:24 PM

Re: Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
Nick,

I find that There is an upside to almost everything; be glad that a high percentage of fly fishers are preoccupied with casting a whole fly line and looking good while they do it. Otherwise when you got to your favorite little brook there would be someone walking right up the middle of it trying to get an Indi Rig to work out for them :D

ncflyboy 07-06-2011 07:54 PM

Re: Unconventional, unstylish casting
 
When things get really tight, I break out the 5'8" number...the "short" 4wt. Between trees, under a bridge, under a boat dock...this is where it shines!

This rod would be fantastic for streams and creeks...unfortunately water mocasins and ticks love to hang around them on this side of the state!

Unconventional casts...under trees, bridges, and the occcasional "steeple" cast!

Cheers,

Robert


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