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Default Roll cast tip

I have a suggestion for a way to practice your roll casts on grass.
  1. Take your forceps and wrap the fly line through the finger loops several times.
  2. Clamp the end of the forceps to the end of the fly line.
  3. Stick the pointy end of the forceps into the ground.
  4. Walk back about 25-30 feet, and turn and face the forceps you stuck into the ground.
  5. The fly line should be in a loosely straight line going back to you.
  6. Adjust the distance or fly line accordingly and start practicing your roll casts.
  7. It works great on grass.
  8. You can use a clipboard if forceps are not available.
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Maybe its just me....but I have a pretty easy time roll casting on grass. Thats where I was first taught how to...its not ideal....but it really forces you to get the mechanics of it.
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Maybe its just me....but I have a pretty easy time roll casting on grass. Thats where I was first taught how to...its not ideal....but it really forces you to get the mechanics of it.
I do too but only if the leader is held down or if I'm using a grass leader.
What's your trick to replicating the resistance water gives you? Serious question.
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I have a suggestion for a way to practice your roll casts on grass.
  1. Take your forceps and wrap the fly line through the finger loops several times.
  2. Clamp the end of the forceps to the end of the fly line.
  3. Stick the pointy end of the forceps into the ground.
  4. Walk back about 25-30 feet, and turn and face the forceps you stuck into the ground.
  5. The fly line should be in a loosely straight line going back to you.
  6. Adjust the distance or fly line accordingly and start practicing your roll casts.
  7. It works great on grass.
  8. You can use a clipboard if forceps are not available.
Are you then casting the forceps?

Like Jackster said, I use a grass leader, which is mono with a dozen or so blood knots with the ends as stubs to catch the grass.

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Never heard of a "grass leader" before! Thanks for the knowledge

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I do too but only if the leader is held down or if I'm using a grass leader.
What's your trick to replicating the resistance water gives you? Serious question.
I don't have any tricks. My dad is a casting instructor and taught me how to roll cast on the grass. I tie on a piece of yarn and away I go. Like I said....casting on the grass really makes me focus on the mechanics of the cast.
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The roll cast is a form of spey cast in which the cast uses the water to "anchor" the line and leader to provide the resistance to bend the rod for the cast. The more effective the anchor, the easier it is to cast. I think Jackster was asking how you anchor the cast to make an effective roll cast.

In a true roll cast, you raise the rod and the line must come to a complete stop.

"we wait until the tip of the flyline is stationary on the water in front of us (with) the line is lying to the side of the body"

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If the true roll cast is done on grass, it is difficult for the line to anchor the cast. One can make a cast by not stopping the rod and moving the line faster than one would if the line were on the water. If the line moves fast while fishing, it could spook the fish. If one continues to move the line through when performing the cast on grass, it is not a roll cast at all.
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