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Old 11-06-2012, 09:17 AM
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Not really about casting, more about instructing and casting certification.

Generally in the UK and other countries we take the assessment because we want to instruct and it's a validation of our ability. A few may take the assessment just as a badge of honour so they can say they made the grade but have no actual intension to instruct. I am lead to believe this is more prevelent in the States than elsewhere. Is this true or not?

Also, I rarely see the IFFF mentioned and I am just wondering why.

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In my little corner of this large country it seems things are about where they should be. When I tested as much emphasis was placed on teaching and communication skills as on casting.
It was understood that trying to baffle your student with your brilliance was taboo as was using their test to show off your casting ability.

I'm sure some chest thumpers get through who just want the cert as a badge of achievement. This can and will happen where ever a casting certification is offered. People are people don't you know?

As of now we only have two stages of certification. I would like to see a third stage for guides and fly shops that helps them teach in the relatively narrow range of casting their clients might do with them. Be that the parking lot rod demonstration, quick start casts or the 'lob the indicator and shot over there' cast that is the bread and butter cast for many guides.
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Hi Jack,

Where I live I haven't a clue as to who and where anyone would certify me. I am actually a licensed outfitter & fly fishing guide but have no sort of casting certificate. It has occurred to me that such a certification could be an asset to me, do you have any suggestions as to how I could do this in Alaska?
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Where I live I haven't a clue as to who and where anyone would certify me. I am actually a licensed outfitter & fly fishing guide but have no sort of casting certificate. It has occurred to me that such a certification could be an asset to me, do you have any suggestions as to how I could do this in Alaska?
Hereís a list of Alaska instructors. I suggest you contact them to see how they became certified. I think at least two masters must run the test. I hope you take and pass the test. You sure are a good help around here!
http://www.fedflyfishers.org/Resources/Locate/CastingInstructors.aspx

A guides list from the FFF guides association. This might be a good way to get your name in front of people coming to your area.
https://www.fedflyfishers.org/Resources/Locate/Guides.aspx
How you apply is up to you to find out. I dug around a little but feel you might have to call or email someone. Itís a new website I linked to.
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Rep to you on this topic, both of you!

I don't do much web searching and obviously am out of the loop on this topic, no pun intended. I may very well follow up on this and will let you know on this thread what I find.

Thanks to Chuckfluffer for getting this ball rolling also,

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Mike,

It's hard to say. But I would suspect that nearly all of the new instructors being certified here are either guides who want to learn how to instruct to help their clients catch more fish, or are owners/staff of fishing lodges, fly shops or wilderness trip outfitters where good instruction will help their primary businesses. There isn't a fly fishing club in or even near the "Sportfishing Capital of the World" in the Florida Keys, for instance.

With the economy here gone south, and no substantial reason for it to change, I think that those who are working are not spending so much time in leisure pursuits as they were in the years just after "The Movie" came out.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that there doesn't seem to be a growing demand for casting instructors. And for someone wanting to teach who's not in the recreational fishing business already, they would, in many places, have to have the time to start from scratch. Perhaps offering lessons to the Boy Scouts for merit badges or schools, and try to get the word spread. But that takes time and a separate source of income.

To me it seems like a lot of work and expense to go through for someone with no intention of ever teaching, just to have their own personal "merit badge". I can't imagine too many people anywhere would put the time in for something that the vast majority of the population here doesn't even know exists. Much easier to buy the fastest crotch rocket on the market for a "low down payment and easy terms".

So I tend to think that those instances you mention are likely fewer than perceived.

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I never knew such a thing even existed.
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Surprising...there are a lot of Certified guys in Michigan...including the yoop.
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Surprising...there are a lot of Certified guys in Michigan...including the yoop.
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