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AndrÚBrun 02-23-2013 06:14 PM

Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
Hi. I really love the snake roll for those tight spots :fishing:
Here I am just pointing out that you really don't need any space behind you, if you set the line a bit in front of you in the water.


kicker19 02-24-2013 02:30 AM

Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
I have no idea what that guy is saying, no real need to, just watching him cast was a learning experience. He made it look so effortless. Thanks for sharing that

dakotakid 02-24-2013 06:49 AM

Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
Would be curious to know if this requires overlining the fly rod. Any thoughts?

littledavid123 02-24-2013 07:01 AM

Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
Well that was certainly interesting, gonna have to practice that one here in the hotel parking lot.

Dave

mista_bob 02-24-2013 09:24 AM

Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
He makes it look so easy. Even whole holding onto a pine tree and casting!

wt bash 02-24-2013 10:36 AM

Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dakotakid (Post 530311)
Would be curious to know if this requires overlining the fly rod. Any thoughts?


Nope just a proper line for the rod and the surface tension helps load the rod. It does look like he's using a shooting head in the video though but I use casts like these all the time with a properly matched line.

fredaevans 02-24-2013 03:29 PM

Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dakotakid (Post 530311)
Would be curious to know if this requires overlining the fly rod. Any thoughts?

Nope, but hard to properly 'pull off' with a short headed spey line. With a 1hander a long forward tapered line (like the 'Triangle Taper') makes this cast a 'piece of cake' with a touch of practice.

You need a touch over half your rod length (clear air) to execute same.

Guest1 02-24-2013 03:38 PM

Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dakotakid (Post 530311)
Would be curious to know if this requires overlining the fly rod. Any thoughts?

No, despite the common misconception you do. In fact it burns my biscuits when people insist you do. So much so that I made a video doing it where I was underlined. So no, not only no, but H E double hockey stick no.
Quote:

Originally Posted by littledavid123 (Post 530313)
Well that was certainly interesting, gonna have to practice that one here in the hotel parking lot.

Dave

You need to anchor the line in water, and the parking lot will be seriously hard on your line. I'd wait for water.

oarfish 02-24-2013 08:24 PM

Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
An arrow flip might work a little better.

Rick

---------- Post added at 08:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:16 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by dakotakid (Post 530311)
Would be curious to know if this requires overlining the fly rod. Any thoughts?

Only if you felt you needed to, it depends on your cast, rod. I'm thinking of using a light sprey line on a single hander 10 wt in the surf when it gets a little warmer.

Rick

---------- Post added at 08:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:22 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredaevans (Post 530449)
Nope, but hard to properly 'pull off' with a short headed spey line. With a 1hander a long forward tapered line (like the 'Triangle Taper') makes this cast a 'piece of cake' with a touch of practice.

You need a touch over half your rod length (clear air) to execute same.

Fred you've still got it.

Rick

randyflycaster 02-24-2013 09:05 PM

Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you
 
I find it interesting that he seems to begin the snake roll by moving the rod in the direction he is going to cast. In Rio's Modern Spey Casting, Simon says to begin the cast by moving the rod in the opposite direction you are going to cast.

Randy


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