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Old 02-23-2013, 05:14 PM
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Default Snake rolls, with no space behind you

Hi. I really love the snake roll for those tight spots
Here I am just pointing out that you really don't need any space behind you, if you set the line a bit in front of you in the water.

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I have no idea what that guy is saying, no real need to, just watching him cast was a learning experience. He made it look so effortless. Thanks for sharing that
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Would be curious to know if this requires overlining the fly rod. Any thoughts?
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Well that was certainly interesting, gonna have to practice that one here in the hotel parking lot.

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He makes it look so easy. Even whole holding onto a pine tree and casting!
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Would be curious to know if this requires overlining the fly rod. Any thoughts?

Nope just a proper line for the rod and the surface tension helps load the rod. It does look like he's using a shooting head in the video though but I use casts like these all the time with a properly matched line.
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Would be curious to know if this requires overlining the fly rod. Any thoughts?
Nope, but hard to properly 'pull off' with a short headed spey line. With a 1hander a long forward tapered line (like the 'Triangle Taper') makes this cast a 'piece of cake' with a touch of practice.

You need a touch over half your rod length (clear air) to execute same.
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No, despite the common misconception you do. In fact it burns my biscuits when people insist you do. So much so that I made a video doing it where I was underlined. So no, not only no, but H E double hockey stick no.
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Well that was certainly interesting, gonna have to practice that one here in the hotel parking lot.

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You need to anchor the line in water, and the parking lot will be seriously hard on your line. I'd wait for water.
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Default Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you

An arrow flip might work a little better.

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Would be curious to know if this requires overlining the fly rod. Any thoughts?
Only if you felt you needed to, it depends on your cast, rod. I'm thinking of using a light sprey line on a single hander 10 wt in the surf when it gets a little warmer.

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Nope, but hard to properly 'pull off' with a short headed spey line. With a 1hander a long forward tapered line (like the 'Triangle Taper') makes this cast a 'piece of cake' with a touch of practice.

You need a touch over half your rod length (clear air) to execute same.
Fred you've still got it.

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Default Re: Snake rolls, with no space behind you

I find it interesting that he seems to begin the snake roll by moving the rod in the direction he is going to cast. In Rio's Modern Spey Casting, Simon says to begin the cast by moving the rod in the opposite direction you are going to cast.

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