The North American Fly Fishing Forum


Go Back   The North American Fly Fishing Forum > General Fly Fishing Discussion > The Fly Cast

The Fly Cast Discuss fly casting with the expert, ask for help, learn to cast farther, increase your accuracy, troubleshoot your cast.


Like Tree58Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2014, 03:51 PM
jcw355's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,081
jcw355 is a glorious beacon of lightjcw355 is a glorious beacon of lightjcw355 is a glorious beacon of lightjcw355 is a glorious beacon of lightjcw355 is a glorious beacon of light
Default Re: Just wanna say thanks

I recognize you from somewhere else. Hmmmmm maybe OSA

---------- Post added at 03:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:48 PM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by lurker66 View Post
My tonne of distance is, if everything is perfect, about 40ft, lol. Im ok with that for now.
That should be far enough for Oklahoma trout fishing
mcnerney and hairwing530 like this.
__________________
Okiemountaineer
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 02-08-2014, 08:18 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 115
sterling woodsman is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Just wanna say thanks

thanks for the tips guys. I watch my backcast sometimes but I usually just wait til I feel the rod tip load and then drive it. I will start watching my backs more.

Because sometimes if I don't put enough on it (or something) I'm waiting for that pull (rod load) and I don't feel it so I freak out and it messes up my rhythm.

I need to start watching so I see and feel.
mcnerney and hairwing530 like this.
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 02-08-2014, 10:46 AM
wjc wjc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: south florida
Posts: 2,042
wjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Just wanna say thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by fly_guy12955
What about , Silver. on this 'looking back' deal if you cast more toward a side arm stroke ? Would that be a more accurate tracking ?
Shoulder and torso rotation with a totally horizontal rod position will not affect tracking. So, Yes, you can look back easily while casting horizontally without affecting tracking. The more you move towards overhead casting the harder this becomes.

About separating "tracking" from "SLP":

"SLP" is "straight line path" of the rod tip due to rod bend. So the tip, when viewed from the side (on a vertical casting stroke), bends more and more during the middle section of rotation and remains fairly horizontal through a good section of the casting stroke.

See animation #3 Virtual Fly Casting - Instruction - The 5 Essentials

Good "tracking" is a straight line tip path when viewing an overhead cast from a helicopter hovering directly above the caster. Bad tracking will be evident if that tip path curves between the start and finish of the stroke.

In a perfectly horizontal cast, the viewpoint would be from the side at the same height as the rod above the ground.

So with a horizontal cast accompanied by a horizontal twisting of the torso and shoulders (as usually occurs when looking backwards), there will be no adverse effect on tracking. The twisting motion is occurring in a plane parallel to the rod. That twisting motion plane in an overhead cast will be 90 degrees opposed to the plane of the rod.

With an overhead cast accompanied with a twisting motion of the shoulders, adjustments need to be made to do this during (and/or after) the casting stroke in order to maintain good tracking on that, or the next, casting stroke.

If using a "thumb-on-top" grip, this is doubly difficult in my opinion and not at all "ergonomic". It is much easier on the body with a "palm-forward" grip - again, in my opinion. I also think it is harder to look back and maintain good tracking when using the Joan Wulff /Jason Borger /Steve Rajeff styles of casting opposed to the more "open" styles of Mike Heritage/Paul Arden/Lasse Karlsson.
mcnerney, hairwing530 and karlsson like this.
__________________
http://www.miterclamp.com/Images/N_Amer_FF.jpg Cheers, Jim

Last edited by wjc; 02-08-2014 at 11:36 AM. Reason: Last edit in red
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2016, 02:48 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Pink, OK
Posts: 31
lurker66 will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Just wanna say thanks

Well it's been 2 years. Thought I'd update. After gettin started and eventually catching some fish, I crashed my motorcycle and tore up my shoulder. That was all but 2 years ago.

I've healed up, regrouped and been hitting ponds n lakes since spring. My casting improved a little, I at least had the basics down.

Well today I took my 29y/o nephew with me. As I was teaching him the basics something "clicked". I was throwing very tight loops. My rod was begging for more line. It tugged an laid straight.

It was like a light came on. My nephew was impressed, heck I was impressed, I know I looked like a pro. Was just funny how I went from short and intermediate casts to tossing some real 50 an 60 footers....and laid em straight and accurate.

And all I did was explain and show my nephew "the basics".
__________________
Look out fish, Im learning a new way to catch you.
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 06-11-2016, 09:39 AM
fredaevans's Avatar
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: White City (tad north of Medford) Oar-E-Gone
Posts: 9,282
fredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Just wanna say thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by lurker66 View Post
My tonne of distance is, if everything is perfect, about 40ft, lol. Im ok with that for now.
I too had to laugh, with a 2hander (even as light as a 2/3 trouter) I can easily hit 90 or more feet. With a single hander that '40' sounds about right.
__________________
When wealth is lost, nothing is lost; when health is lost, something is lost; when character is lost, all is lost. - Billy Graham"
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 07-19-2016, 05:37 PM
wjc wjc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: south florida
Posts: 2,042
wjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond reputewjc has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Just wanna say thanks

Lurker,

Just saw your post from this year. That's great news that the casting motion just clicked for you! Sorry to hear about your bike accident and shoulder though.

It wouldn't surprise me if you didn't exagerate your stroke by lengthening it and slowing it down some to better demonstrate how to do it for your nephew. Whatever you are doing differently, it sounds like it is definitely working out well.
__________________
http://www.miterclamp.com/Images/N_Amer_FF.jpg Cheers, Jim
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wanna trade? fysh General Discussion 23 12-17-2014 06:58 PM
i wanna build a fly rod this winter caseywise General Discussion 25 10-26-2011 01:10 PM
Anyone wanna do some fishin? 951tightline Pacific Southwest 3 05-05-2010 08:56 AM
Wanna see a big trout rockhoppernc General Discussion 15 09-25-2009 08:47 PM
Just wanna say hi palmcanyonhotel Northeast 2 06-15-2009 08:00 PM









All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
2005-2015 The North American Fly Fishing Forum. All rights reserved.