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Old 05-02-2014, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Curve to the right

Here's why the twist works. The fly line follows the rod tip. When the fly rod tip travels in an arc, the fly line will travel in an arc. An arc is a curve. After the stop, this curve in the fly line travels down the fly line as it unfurls and create the curve in the line and leader.

When you create a sharp arc just before the stop, that curve will be at the end of the cast which is the leader.

If the rod tip hooks just before the stop, the cast must also. If you are trying this and it does not work for you, the problem is not the technique. The problem is in the execution of the technique. I have these problems as well, and that is when I ask Gary to help me.

This exact principle of the fly line following the rod tip is why instructors tell you NOT to routinely look at your backcast during an overhead cast. Beginners can do this as they are fine tuning their loop formation and timing on the backcast BUT if you do this routinely, you will routinely throw a slight gradual curve into your forward cast.

This is what happens. As you rotate your head and torso to look at your backcast over your right shoulder, you will unconsciously rotate your right shoulder. This upper body rotation will rotate your shoulder and your casting arm in an arc. As you come forward for your forward cast, your arm and fly rod will rotate back around this slight arc, and you will find that your cast will have a curve to the left.

If you don't believe me, hold your right casting arm up as if you are making a backcast and keep it up. Turn your head and body back to look at your imaginary backcast. Your arm will move in an arc. Turn back forward and your arm will turn in an arc forward. You will do this because this is how your body and joints are constructed. It is very hard to look at your backcast during and overhead cast and NOT rotate the shoulder and casting arm in an arc.
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On casting, a thought from Dan Holland ..." There's no casting instructor like a rising trout."

You find them in the darnedest places!

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Default Re: Curve to the right

You can learn to cast left handed and then use the traditional techniques already mentioned to curve right if typically right-handed. The musculature and bone configuration issues silver creek mentioned are then gone. It isn't easy to learn to cast wrong-handed but it is yet another technique to curve right if right-handed.
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I gave the right curve rod twist method a little more thought and made some personal observations and found out that the amount of wrist twist is limited by how you hold the rod. It is very difficult to get the rod movement if you cast with the finger on top grip or the vee to the side.

Silver Creek explained pronation and supination is his first post and to get the rod to move in the direction it needs to go with the finger on top you have to sweep your elbow way out from your side to get the wrist to pronate, it just won't make the rod go in the right direction.

Here's what I found that worked well for me... Take your normal grip on the rod and start with a supinated wrist (palm facing the sky), make a back cast without twisting your wrist, your now in a position to make the rod move the way it needs to, the palm of the hand is facing directly away from the target at the backcast stop. Start your forward cast with the back of your wrist facing the target, snap and pronate the wrist at the power stroke. You finish with the palm of your hand facing the target rotating your wrist almost 180 degrees.

With your finger on top to the rod you can only get about 10 degrees of pronation.
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