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Well just got another pair of Hemos in to play with, and this set is not going to be used. It has been a trusty set and released many a fish and would like to see it go to someone who can use it. Perfect for use when you have to keep your gloves on or any day inbetween. This is used and as such may have some scratches on it. All Black version forget which length, and I'm too lazy this second to measure.