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Default I cut my loop off !!!!

I am a dork and forgot what I was doing and cut my loop off my line. What is the best way to add a loop to my line?
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tie a surgeons loop...

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Default Re: I cut my loop off !!!!

Here is a link to a previous thread on this topic

Making a loop on your Fly Line.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: I cut my loop off !!!!

i use braided loops they just slide on and work like a finger trap and are cheap

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Default Re: I cut my loop off !!!!

Here's what I do.

Get yourself a good piece of Maxima leader (Chameleon or Ultra Green; 10 lb. or better);

Maxima Tippet Material

nail knot it to the line that you accidently cut;

Nail Knot

put a perfection loop in the other end of the leader (about 3-5 inches from the nail knot);

Perfection Loop

and you're back in business with a loop at the end of your line!

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Me too on purpose. I use a nail knot.
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Default Re: I cut my loop off !!!!

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Here's what I do.

Get yourself a good piece of Maxima leader (Chameleon or Ultra Green; 10 lb. or better);

Maxima Tippet Material

nail knot it to the line that you accidently cut;

Nail Knot

put a perfection loop in the other end of the leader (about 3-5 inches from the nail knot);

Perfection Loop

and you're back in business with a loop at the end of your line!

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i purposly cut off my loops and than put on some 20 pouund test floating mono with a nail knot anf than a perfection loop. same as a bove but i will go another step and put a dot of zap glue on the tip of the fly line to prevent water from getting in and making it sink
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Default Re: I cut my loop off !!!!

RipTide posted that he uses a 3 simple whip finish wraps on his looped ends, and I decided to try that myself. The thread Davo linked shows Frank Whiton's method, and also my version of RipTide's method (scroll down a bit). I've been using the same line almost exclusively for many months, and the loop I made shows no sign of wear at all:
Click the image to open in full size.

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I like that loop, Frank, and I'll tell you why. After buying my first welded loop
\line, I knew that fun couldn't last. My first homemade loop was very much like
the YouTube video, but with nail polish. RipTide mentioned that nail polish
was too inflexible, and I decided he was right. Winding that much thread onto
the fly fly line, and then coating it in nail polish results in a loop that is hard
to pull through the tip top, and also creates a stress point between the
thread and fly line. Bending the line reveals a hinge that may not effect
casting, but sure does make judging where the next crack is going to occur
quite easy.

After some shopping, I found Loctite's flexible/waterproof adhesive. I doubled
my line over, and wound the thread the full length of this section (leaving space for the loop, of course). I still saw a hinge, however. RipTide did say
that he used 3 whip finishes, so I tried that, and the hinging was almost
completely gone. It was at least as good as the factory loops. I was watching
a show about building bridges, and one of the guests said that engineers like
to build with "just enough" strength.
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Default Re: I cut my loop off !!!!

I fold my line over and whip thread to secure it like in the picture.
Advantage - nice and clean with no Knot to get caught in tip top or guides (which to be honest, my line never gets that far).
Dis-Advantage - Mono or Fluorocarbon will end up cutting it.

Easy fix is to use Furled leader.

Or, go with Pocono posted. To improve on that would be to use a needle, go through the line (provided the line does not have an inner core) about 1/2", thread a leader in the needle and pull it through. Scuff the end up with sand paper and then a dab of Zap A Gap (or other waterproof super glue). Put the leader a little more till glue is in the line. It will generally stop right there where the glue is, or you can put a knot like in this illustration.
But the super glue method does really hold

YouTube- WWW.CEEFF.COM -- NEEDLE KNOT
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Or, go with Pocono posted. To improve on that would be to use a needle, go through the line (provided the line does not have an inner core) about 1/2", thread a leader in the needle and pull it through. Scuff the end up with sand paper and then a dab of Zap A Gap (or other waterproof super glue). Put the leader a little more till glue is in the line. It will generally stop right there where the glue is, or you can put a knot like in this illustration.
But the super glue method does really hold
Before I used a loop in the fly line, I used Dave Whitlock's CA connection:
On The Water - Warmwater Fly Tyer - by Ward Bean
While Dave Whitlock uses a full leader, I only used a foot length of .019 mono
with a perfection loop tied on the end. The CA glue holds forever, and I had
some very heavy tippets break (snags) without any signs of wear in the line
to leader connection. It's very smooth through the tip top as well. Whitlock
stresses that Zap-a-Gap must be used, but there are plenty of very good
CA adhesives available now. Loctite is easily available if you don't live near
a hobby shop for Zap.
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