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shimloom 04-19-2012 01:01 PM

Backing to fly line question?
 
I wanted to know what is the best product to use after you connect the backing to the fly line. I would use a rubber cement type of stuff to make a football so the line/backing went thru the guides smoothly. I would guess there's a better way by now?

axle27 04-19-2012 01:19 PM

Re: Backing to fly line question?
 
I use Pliobond. Flexible when dry but stinks a bit when using.

mysticm 04-19-2012 01:41 PM

Re: Backing to fly line question?
 
I use Zap a Gap OR Loctite super glue. Just massage the adhesive bead into a smooth oval shape and let it dry. Has worked like a charm for the last 5 years I have been doing this (no hang ups in the guides or breakage)

sweetandsalt 04-19-2012 02:52 PM

Re: Backing to fly line question?
 
+1 for Zap-A-Gap. Assuming your are using a nail or Albright knot that is well tied (depending on the fly line core material), coat it with a droplet of the gap filling super adhesive and whick off any excess. Allow thorough curing time, about a 1/2 hour and you are unbreakable. You might also have a gander at the earlier "Welded" Loops thread in this fly line forum.

Red Owl 04-19-2012 02:55 PM

Re: Backing to fly line question?
 
Another vote for PlioBond.:cool:

BigCliff 04-19-2012 04:05 PM

Re: Backing to fly line question?
 
I've read that Pliobond is just rebranded rubber cement.

I use Loon's UV Knot Sense, applied sparingly so it smooths rather than creates a bead.

sweetandsalt 04-19-2012 08:55 PM

Re: Backing to fly line question?
 
Pliobond/rubber cement may smooth a knot and prevent slippage of not fully seated coils but adds no strength to a connection. I am not certain about UV curing adhesives which seem strength addative but I do know that gap filling, slow curing super glue like Zap-A-Gap is truley strong. We never want to INCREASE mass at knots by creating a "bead", rather we want to seal knots to prevent slippage or stripping coating off line core. Overlapping a bit onto the line coating may enhace adhession and onto the line tip/tail ,sealing the core from water wicking. Of course, a properly tied, multi turn (12 - 15) nail or Albright knot has good profile and can stand on its own...but a light treatment of strong sealent can't hurt.

shimloom 04-19-2012 11:35 PM

Re: Backing to fly line question?
 
Thanks guys for the advice. I will do some checking into the above products mentioned.

risenfly 06-16-2012 12:57 PM

Re: Backing to fly line question?
 
First order of business is tying a good knot. No amount of glue or adhesive will fix a bad knot.


Learned that on my first king salmon last fall.....

silver creek 06-16-2012 03:24 PM

Re: Backing to fly line question?
 
I use Pliobond to smooth the connection of backing to fly line. Why smooth the connection?

The reason is that the backing knot will be pulled over the guides by the running fish. So it has the potential to damage the guides as it is pulled over the guides under tension. Should the knot catch on the guide, you can bend or rip the guide off of the blank.

As to using a material that strengthens the knot, this has little relevance in my view. The knot itself should hold. After all, it is the weakest link that will fail and if the backing knot fails before the tippet to fly knot ...... the fellow who tied the backing knot has really got problems that super glue won't solve.


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