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jspriddy 08-10-2012 08:34 PM

fly line to leader loop
 
In order to change leaders quickly, or frequently, is OK to use a loop to loop connection, with a perfection loop or surgeon's loop? Will loops affect casting?

Thanks for being patient with a greenhorn,

John

gatortransplant 08-10-2012 09:19 PM

John, a loop-to-loop with perfection loops will do you just fine! Most new fly lines will come with welded loops in the end for this purpose. Using forceps or something similar will help tie a nice compact perfection loop.

cowpokey 08-10-2012 10:04 PM

Re: fly line to leader loop
 
Buddy turned me onto the Amnesia loop (nail knot with a perfection loop). He says:
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeeping hillbilly
Yeah I got 15 lb on my 4,5 wt rods and 20lbs on my 6s and 25lbs on my seven and my Spey rod.

My 2 and 3 wt rods I used 5x tippet material cause I couldn't get Amnesia light enough. On these I use the Scientific Anglers strike indicators slid on my leaders in between the knots as I tie up my leaders. Harry Murray came up with this idea a long time ago using old cut up fly line and take out the braid and past it on to SA and they liked it and started making/selling them.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...001800x600.jpg

jspriddy 08-11-2012 06:43 AM

Re: fly line to leader loop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gatortransplant (Post 476548)
John, a loop-to-loop with perfection loops will do you just fine! Most new fly lines will come with welded loops in the end for this purpose. Using forceps or something similar will help tie a nice compact perfection loop.


Thanks. Does the perfection loop have any advantages over the surgeon's loop? I can tie either, but the surgeon's loop is easier.

John

---------- Post added at 06:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:39 AM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowpokey (Post 476555)
Buddy turned me onto the Amnesia loop (nail knot with a perfection loop). He says:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...001800x600.jpg


I have enough memory problems without introducing amnesia into the mix. In fact, I'm not certain I'm not already there.

No, really, thanks. I have yet to start learning nail knots, but I'll keep this in mind.

Thanks,

John

cowpokey 08-11-2012 07:26 AM

Re: fly line to leader loop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jspriddy (Post 476594)
Thanks. Does the perfection loop have any advantages over the surgeon's loop? I can tie either, but the surgeon's loop is easier.

Yes, the perfection loop lays out straight(er).

jspriddy 08-11-2012 12:05 PM

Re: fly line to leader loop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cowpokey (Post 476596)
Yes, the perfection loop lays out straight(er).


Thanks,


John

overmywaders 08-24-2012 06:12 PM

Re: fly line to leader loop
 
I just use a Jam Knot in the Perfection loop of the leader. I used to whip a loop on the line, but I've gotten lazy and the Jam knot works fine.

jspriddy 08-24-2012 07:46 PM

Re: fly line to leader loop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by overmywaders (Post 479325)
I just use a Jam Knot in the Perfection loop of the leader. I used to whip a loop on the line, but I've gotten lazy and the Jam knot works fine.


I'm not sure I understand. Please explain.

Thanks,

John

overmywaders 08-24-2012 08:41 PM

Re: fly line to leader loop
 
I had a hard time finding an illustration of the Jam knot to Perfection loop but here is one - Jam Knot.

jspriddy 08-25-2012 06:17 AM

Re: fly line to leader loop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by overmywaders (Post 479355)
I had a hard time finding an illustration of the Jam knot to Perfection loop but here is one...

Ah. Now I see. Is there some advantage to this method over a "loop to loop" connection?

Thanks.

John


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