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Old 08-20-2011, 12:55 AM
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Default Going old school: Sage 505L or Orvis CFO III?

Looking for a relatively old school click and pawl drag reel and looking at either the Sage 505L or the CFO III.

Any thoughts, comments, advice on deciding between these two?

Anything I should be aware of from a wear-and-tear perspective?

I have heard that both are pretty bulletproof. I haven't called Sage and/or Orvis yet to see if they can/will work on their reel if what I can find needs some work/refurbishing.

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imhp the english made cfos are some of the finest reels ever made. a true piece of art.

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I haven't called Sage and/or Orvis yet to see if they can/will work on their reel if what I can find needs some work/refurbishing.
Here on the West Coast, Archuleta's Reel Works gets a lot of business for refurbishing old reels. If a piece needs to be machined, he'll do it.

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Default Re: Going old school: Sage 505L or Orvis CFO III?

As a huge fan of the old School Sage reels (500, 700 or even the 5000 series) i would go for the 505L. They come up on eBay fairly often and in fact there is a 509 on there right now that I'm eyeing. Certainly the CFO is a great reel and IMO one of the best Orvis products made but I would still favor the Sage. My choice is based on pure design esthetics as they both are pretty tough products.

One consideration though- weight. I imagine the 505L is a bit heavier than the CFO which depending on the rod may sway the choice.
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Weren't those Sage reels made in England by Hardy?
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Weren't those Sage reels made in England by Hardy?
Yes- plus they had a very unique color.....
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Default Re: Going old school: Sage 505L or Orvis CFO III?

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As a huge fan of the old School Sage reels (500, 700 or even the 5000 series) i would go for the 505L. They come up on eBay fairly often and in fact there is a 509 on there right now that I'm eyeing. Certainly the CFO is a great reel and IMO one of the best Orvis products made but I would still favor the Sage. My choice is based on pure design esthetics as they both are pretty tough products.

One consideration though- weight. I imagine the 505L is a bit heavier than the CFO which depending on the rod may sway the choice.
Thanks for the input. Obviously the Sage reels pre-date the internet so I can't find a lot of spec info on those reels. I didn't think about the weight of the reel and since modern rods are so much lighter, that could definitely make a difference in swingweight feel.

I haven't gotten any feedback on the plusses or minuses of the two reels, and I would have thought that there would be folks on this board who have tried both reels at some point in time.
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Default Re: Going old school: Sage 505L or Orvis CFO III?

For me- when these reels were on the market I worked in and guided for an Orvis dealer. The CFO is good, but even though I could purchase one on a Pro purchase plan, I liked the Sage better. The Sage has a geat feel and finish, it's a beautiful product.
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Default Re: Going old school: Sage 505L or Orvis CFO III?

They are both fine coices, and both made by Hardy.

Another reel you might consider is one I consider a sleeper in the Hardy line. The Hardy JLH, they were almost identical to the Sages, and you can occasionally find a gloden one. I have a golden five, one of my favorite reels. The Sages are great reels, the L's are beginning to get a bit pricey on Ebay though. They are no longer a secret.
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Default Re: Going old school: Sage 505L or Orvis CFO III?

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For me- when these reels were on the market I worked in and guided for an Orvis dealer. The CFO is good, but even though I could purchase one on a Pro purchase plan, I liked the Sage better. The Sage has a geat feel and finish, it's a beautiful product.
Mechanically, is there anything I should look for in either the CFO or Sage 505 that would raise a concern about its reliability? I don't plan on buying one without being able to check it out first (or have a return guarantee)
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