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Old 12-02-2011, 03:34 PM
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Casey, I too was comparing them but, perhaps, more criticaly. As I have said before, I have yet to find a perfect reel (no pun intended on the Perfect, which I find low in line capacity and too loud despite its obvious charms). I hope that if we intelligently discuss the shortcomings of the quality products designed for fly fishing that the makers will take heed and continue to refine and redesign their offerings.

I am taking a new reel fishing tomorrow which claims to be "the best". I'll report upon my return in a week.
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I hear that, don't forget that the graying hair is thinning as well.............................
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I hear that, don't forget that the graying hair is thinning as well.............................
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The Hardy has a sealed multi-disc array while the Waterworks has a non-sealed brace of nestled cones
Maybe I'm late to the party, but has Waterworks' claim that their drag is "fully sealed" been debunked?
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In an earlier thread it was pointed out by a user that the Waterworks reels were sealed only when assembled. Removing the spool, as in clearing contamination following an accidental dunking in marl, sand or mud, exposes the one-way bearing and thus presumably the cones as well to the elements. I have never used one of their reels because of the too (for me) wide and shallow aspect ratio so I know little of the inner workings but if the above is inaccurate please correct me as I would not want to misslead anyone or disseminate false information.

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OK, Tim, a very knowlegeble technical person at Waterworks explained that all fly reels that claim "sealed drag" are using the term a bit like "water proof". Any drag that can be user dissassembled is not really "sealed". Waterworks are functionally sealed when assembled, less so with the spool removed. Tim suggested that, due to the open skeleton design of their reels, the spool need not be removed to rinse a befouled reel; sand or mud can simply be swished off with the reel assembled protecting the one-way bearing and drag elements.

Regarding my issue with their wide/shallow aspect ratio; Tim acknowleged that with trout fishing, uneven line retrieval is usually not a big issue, however, with salmon, steelhead and, even more so, saltwater speedsters, extra attention is clearly required to regain backing and line in such a way as to not jam a pillar. A new model, he hinted, is soon to be introduced to address this concern...remeber reel guys, you heard it first from sweetandsalt.
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I agree that they look pretty amazing for the price, but I'm also one that would prefer they be less bright.

Now make the click version with nice tough/dull type 3 anodization (aka "hard alox") and you've got the perfect small stream reel.

(but that probably would add $20, and they figured hitting a price point was more important)
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The finish is too bright for me.
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Default Re: The new Hardy's

I'm reading posts that people don't like them because they're too bright. Seriously, how long do you think it'll be before it starts to dull. Unless they use a clear coat. Plus, I really doubt the fish will complain if they're too bright.
But you have to like what you throw.
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