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Old 11-23-2012, 10:19 AM
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My wife and I are moving to Missoula MT next August. I have a Cabelas Fish Eagle 2 5 weight and am not sure which reel I have on it. My dad gave me this setup for fishing small streams in NE Iowa. I am looking into a couple new rod/reel outfits for under $400 each. I really prefer dry fly fishing, although im not opposed to nymphing or using streamers either. I never had trouble landing dries fairly smoothky, but am interested in trying a 3 weight for dries mainly looking at Allen and tfo bvk rods in 3 and either 7 or 8 weight rods deoending on if I am fishing streams or large rivers. What reel would you pair with each of these? I like the look of Ross and Orvis reels and wouldn't turn my nose up at a quality used outfit either. Unfortunately no good fly shops wround here or I would just go there. Thanks guys and gals
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For flinging dries check out the Allen ATS, the medium action is very favorable to presenting a dry and overall the rod is great for smaller waters and certainly affordable. As far as reels go, the trout II is awesome. I have the trout I on my 2/3wt setup but will hopefully be upgrading soon.

I think the seven or eight weight is going to be too heavy for Montana, but I may be mistaken. I think you'll be better off with a 9' 6wt for streamers and heavier nymph rigs and a 5 for everything else on the bigger waters. I don't know the Ross reels but if you're going with Orvis the Access reels are probably what you're looking for. Good luck and enjoy!
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I have heard that shorter rods are harder to cast, and would make sense to me that they are harder to mend? Is this true or heresay?
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Depends.. are you looking for distance.. or presentation.. shorter rods will usually have a harder time getting more line out than a 9'.. but that really can all come down to how you cast... mending can be tougher.. especially if you are working a very wide stream.. or working a run with a ton of different currents in it... and need to keep your line off the water.... long leaders can also be tricky with small rods.. small rods are great though for those smaller.. tighter.. and bushy creeks that keep anglers away because there's "too much stuff in the way".. if you like keeping your distance from others.. small rod will get you into the tougher.. less adventured areas

I own a 7'6" 4wt.. which is really now my "all around" small stream rod.. i can cast buggers.. nymphing rigs... and dries...

Also own a 9' 6wt for larger rivers/streams in the area.. this rod will get me bigger mends.. more line control on bigger streams.. and allow me to throw even bigger rigs...

And then there is the new addition.. my 8'6" 3wt.. which will now be my small stream rod... more so for small pasture style streams.. and when I want to high-stick.. where I have more room to work with and can allow a bigger rod.. but don't need the bigger backbone of the 6wt

Oh and as for reels.. check out The Clymb.. they have Redington and Ross reels on sale over there right now.. along with Redington CPX rods...
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IMO a 6 will do you for most MT fishing. If you want a lighter rod later for small water etc., I would suggest a 4.
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I lived in MT for 4 years and I'd agree with imxer. If I were limited to 2 rods for there, I would have chosen a 9' 6 wt (for rivers like the Madison) and maybe an 8 - 8'6 4 wt (for the smaller waters/spring creeks). That said, if I was limited to one rod for everything, I would choose an 8'6 or 9' 5 wt. There are a lot of great rods out there on clearance right now that may suit your purposes. Good luck and enjoy MT.
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Congratulations on the move to a cool locale.

You could always wait until you arrive in Missoula and use the purchase of a new outfit or two, to grease the information wheels of whichever fly shop in the region you feel most comfortable with.

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Thanks for the advice guys, I saw that Ross has an outfit called the Essence Elit I believe, an 8'6" 3weight might be just the ticket. My Fish Eagle 2 is over 9' I believe and I have gitten pretty good with that rod, and have recently gotten good enough @ roll casting for when I have over the top cover.
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Congratulations on the move to a cool locale.

You could always wait until you arrive in Missoula and use the purchase of a new outfit or two, to grease the information wheels of whichever fly shop in the region you feel most comfortable with.

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I've fished in Missoula several times. The Grizzy Hackle fly shop is the best known. You will likely be fishing the Bitterroot, the Blackfoot, and the Clark Fork Rivers. The Bitterooot and the Blackfoot River enter the Clark Fork. A short drive from Missoula is Rock Creek. All are good sized.

Most fly fishers suggest a 9 ft 5 wt as the starting point for a fly on these water. However, I do not take my 9 ft 5 wt when I fish Montana. I take two rods, a 10 ft 5 wt GLoomis GLX Classic and a Gary Borger Pro series 9 ft 4 wt for spring creeks.

The 10 footer is great on lakes like Hebgen and on big rivers like the Madison.

I agree that it is probably best to wait until you get to Missoula to buy. You can't go wrong with a 9 ft 5 wt as a single all around rod, but if you get two rods, I would add a 10 footer.
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Along with the rivers SC has mentioned there are a lot of really fun small streams as well. If you were to have just two rods I would suggest a 3 and 5 wt, or a 4 and 6 wt. You will not need a 7 or 8 weight for trout fishing around here, it would be overkill. A 6wt is as heavy as would go and it is nice for heavy nymphing and streamer fishing. But if you don't do it a lot, then a good 5WT is completely sufficient. A nice med-fast 9' 5WT would be a great all around rod, then you could opt for a 8'6" (or so) 3WT for the many dry fly opportunities on smaller rivers.

I fish a 9' 4WT almost exclusively. It is a superior dry fly rod for any river and is a suitable nymph rod.

I would urge you to wait until you get here, for a number of reasons. First, you will get better advice from the shops here, than people from all over (no offense to anyone out there!), and second it is a great opportunity to establish a relationship with a local shop (which you will need to do) and spend some money in your community. There are four very nice shops in town, The Grizzly Hackle is the big Orvis shop, The Kingfisher, The Missoulian Angler, and Blackfoot River Outfitters - a small Orvis endorsed shop.
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