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Old 07-27-2013, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: Sealed drag vs non sealed.

Any reel used in the salt, North or South, must be rinsed thoroughly and dried after use. Think of sealed drags as the same as open designs just less user maintainable. Really, no fly reel drag is that complex and every reel maker worth its salt (pardon the pun) will offer full diagrams and instruction on proper reel care. It is no big deal. Those serious about their angling should take a certain satisfaction in understanding the inner workings of their tackle and how to maintain it just as they might take pride in the special knots required in their rigging.

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Default Re: Sealed drag vs non sealed.

Thank you for all the answers and advice. I now own a Abel Super 7. I had a gopro camera I didn't use and swaped it for the reel. It's a tank and I will never need the full capacity of this reels brake. I'm hunting seatrouts in the salt.
I think it's too heavy for my Sage One 691-4, but I think it will suit my TCX 790-4.
The cork drag had a little too much grease on it, so I have dunked it in some soapy water. It needs a little cleaning, the cork drag.

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Old 07-30-2013, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: Sealed drag vs non sealed.

The TCX/Super 7 is a match! The cork drag surface needs to be lubricated with neatsfoot oil but not awash in it. Excess can be whipped off with a paper towel. I put on about 3 drops and rub it in with my finger.
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Default Re: Sealed drag vs non sealed.

I don't have that oil. I have some superlupe oil and Daiwa reel grease. However it was over the top greased in. I guess soapy water don't do any damage? 12hours or more soaked in it? Took a toothbrush and rinsed the cork. There's still some grease left on the springs that is really hard to remove.

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I don't have that oil.
Neatsfoot oil is commonly used to preserve leather products. It is popular for using on horse saddles.

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I have some superlupe oil and Daiwa reel grease.
The Daiwa grease will work for the moving parts. You can try the oil, but I have a feeling that it will not last as long as the neatsfoot oil. I have tried some different lubes on the cork drag plate. They just did not last.

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However it was over the top greased in. I guess soapy water don't do any damage? 12hours or more soaked in it? Took a toothbrush and rinsed the cork. There's still some grease left on the springs that is really hard to remove.
A long soak in soapy water won't hurt the parts. However if you really want to get the grease off of the springs, a spirit based or an undiluted citrus based degreaser should be used.

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Default Re: Sealed drag vs non sealed.

Like MP said, a tack shop is where to find neatsfoot oil. I bought a bottle that could lube every cork drag in the world...twice. It is what Abel recommends and they may have small vials available. They are very helpful.
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Default Re: Sealed drag vs non sealed.

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Abel Reels - Easy Care Instructions

I actually paid the ridiculous amount for this lube kit, basically because I wanted the viles and the package. I refill them with bulk reel grease, reel oil and neatsfoot oil.

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Default Re: Sealed drag vs non sealed.

Since I mention the size jug of neatsfoot oil and how it could lube every cork drag in the world...I should comment that, when we talk draw-bar reels on this forum, we usually mention Abel and Tibor. They are two of the best but there is also the Canadian Islander, Australian Hayden, Italian Alutecnos, South African Shilton and Magla, Japanese Wellstone, not to mention the older Florida-built Fin-Nor, Seamaster and my first bonefish reel, the Catino.
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For light salt water usage 'older is better?' The old Phf'g Med's; Things are just plain bullet proof. Hundred's of thousands of these things (over 70 years?) built/sold for a very good reason.

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Default Re: Sealed drag vs non sealed.

Dennis, I use Boeshield to get the old grease off reels. (especially old dirty ones) I use the spray, and soak it with the stuff. Then I use Q-tips to wipe it out. A can of that will last you quite a while. I got mine at Sears.
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