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Old 11-28-2013, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: No drag? A reel drag?

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I'm 99% self taught with some input from some polite people stream side that must felt sorry for me for looking so silly trying to fly fish.

That's why I ask so many very newbie type questions, I only know enough to get myself in lots of trouble.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:06 PM
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Unless you are dealing with a marlin or some other fish that can really burn a line then a click and pawl is fine. As other mention, you have various methods at your disposal. You can put pressure on the line, thumb or palm the spool, and use rod angles to add additional drag. As an experiment, with the rod in one hand and the line in the other, start to pull on the line. Now use your thumb on the spool. How much drag did that produce? Now move your rod in different angles as you pull on the line, what did you observe? Carp knows how to run a line. Dd you ever see the YouTube video of the Asian guy with the nice music in the background play the carp? You can see some nice reel palming in action.

The problem sometimes with disk drag is you can set the drag too tight in the initial setting and pop the tippet. Other times you can set it light to prevent over spool and 9 times out of 10 most people forget to adjust the drag during the fight because they don't need it or they simply forget. If you ask most people why they got a disk drag, the answer usually is just in case they get moby dick or the sales person told them they needed it. Nt to many whales live in my creek or pond, usually out in the ocean...
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Default Re: No drag? A reel drag?

No I haven't seen the video, but I would like to.

I understand what needs to be done, and like most things, there is the right or better way, and then there is my fumbling through it till I figure it out, time is an issue, so I would prefer to avoid the fumbling and just learn it right from the start.

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I know the water is about to get hard, but you can also experiment by rigging up exactly as you would fish, and get a feel for how much pressure you can apply before your tippet breaks.
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Default Re: No drag? A reel drag?

CT,

Dragging a large fish in by pulling the line can be done but if the fish is strong enough to bolt, there is a good chance that you can have a knot form in the line as it is whipped back up toward the stripping guide. The worst case is that you are either standing on the loose coils of line or get one wrapped around a foot or leg. Don't laugh too hard at those predictions, I have had all three happen. I learned quite some time back to put the fish on the reel right away and when you are catching small fish there is no better time to learn.

To apply resistance with a Martin #65 (I have one) you can simply use a finger tip on the exposed spool of line at the bottom rear area between the pillars. Keeping the running line pinned under the index finger of the hand holding the rod grip is effective until you get into fish that can make a sustained long run. In that case you will get a nasty line burn from the friction and so, you must use good judgment as you play fish off of a simple click reel. Yeah, I've had line burns as well as having been caught standing on the fly line.

If you find that you will be encountering fish large enough to require a drag of some sort you will end up with another reel. The clickers are fun and I have landed many salmon using hardy Lightweight Series reels. I don't go looking to tangle with salmon on clickers but it happens regularly enough that I got real good with the finger tip thing.

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Default Re: No drag? A reel drag?

Problem solved, great post Rip.

Craig, if you trace the outline of your fingers on the side of your new Martin, I could perform that mod in a matter of minutes. I wouldn't charge you anything. The like button is down on the lower right.
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Those medalist are great reels and that mod is fun. I think I have seen leather pads used in conjunction with that mod to reduce finger tip burn. Disc drags in a way insulates one from the fishing experience!
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I'm 99% self taught with some input from some polite people stream side that must felt sorry for me for looking so silly trying to fly fish.

That's why I ask so many very newbie type questions, I only know enough to get myself in lots of trouble.
Not to worry about the 'Newbie' bit; we were all there at one point. 71 and been at this for 60'ish years, amazing what I still learn off this board.


In fishing, there are many ways to achieve an 'end result,' some are just better than others. Hardest part (2handers) that I run into are folks who are 'self taught,' usually a lot of "bad habits" I have to unwind to get the fellow/lady going down the right track.

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