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Old 11-28-2013, 07:37 PM
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Default No drag? A reel drag?

I tried a search and my search was "too common"

I have a Martin #65 fly reel, single action, and no drag, so far my limited experience has resulted in fish that are of a size that require no drag setting, or much reeling of any kind (that will change this year, now that you all have given me a clue).

How do you use a reel like that to play larger fish? Other then that it holds line which is all I really need it to do. Is it a "reel" drag to learn how to do?( I know, really bad pun, blame it on the turkey)
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I tried a search and my search was "too common"

I have a Martin #65 fly reel, single action, and no drag, so far my limited experience has resulted in fish that are of a size that require no drag setting, or much reeling of any kind (that will change this year, now that you all have given me a clue).

How do you use a reel like that to play larger fish? Other then that it holds line which is all I really need it to do. Is it a "reel" drag to learn how to do?( I know, really bad pun, blame it on the turkey)
Palming a reel is really pretty easy even for a really new guy. Unless on a real frequent basis you are really catching fish that are real big, palming works about as well as a real reel with a real drag.
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Default Re: No drag? A reel drag?

If the #65 is anything like the MG-3 there isn't a way to palm the reel as the spool is completely enclosed. At that point I would learn how to fight the larger fish with hand lining the fish in. Control them and turn them using the rod as leverage.
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A significant number of folks who Steelhead fish (Summer and Winter) just use " click and "Paul" type reels (Hardy for an example). Rare to have a 'problem' save for its one hell of a large fish.

Small fish and light rods vs. 'spey rods.' Number of guides and line under tension provides a hell of a lot of 'drag' on the line that a fish has to work against. How many times have you actually seen your fly line backing?

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Default Re: No drag? A reel drag?

As Fred says many big fish are landed by applying tension to the line with your free hand. Not that it would be better, but couldn't you put your hand on the side of the spool if you chose to? (Realizing there is a handle there).
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As Fred says many big fish are landed by applying tension to the line with your free hand. Not that it would be better, but couldn't you put your hand on the side of the spool if you chose to? (Realizing there is a handle there).

Yup. With 'trout' many just use hand pressure on the line and that's all that's needed. With larger fish (etc) 'D and P' reels (that I can think of) come in two basic configurations. An extruded spool that goes over the exterior of the frame. Finger tips on same here as the spool spins.

If no 'extrusion' then you have to 'palm the reel' with your finger tips as the handle spin ... "knuckle duster" time with a hot fish. That spinning handle can give you a hell of a whack!

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Yup. With 'trout' many just use hand pressure on the line and that's all that's needed. With larger fish (etc) 'D and P' reels (that I can think of) come in two basic configurations. An extruded spool that goes over the exterior of the frame. Finger tips on same here as the spool spins.

If no 'extrusion' then you have to 'palm the reel' with your finger tips as the handle spin ... "knuckle duster" time with a hot fish. That spinning handle can give you a hell of a whack!

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I bet so. If CT is talking about the rod he just bought 9WT line for, then I know I would be running a drag, even if it is just a cheap one. (Say a Cabelas Wind River 19.95 shipped right now.
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Default Re: No drag? A reel drag?

It was explained to me that you play the fish from the reel, so that's what I have to go by.

It would seem then when I'm stripping line, I just never let go with my right hand, and reel as needed with the left. Sounds like a plan, although I haven't had an issue so far, I'm really hoping this spring, it will be. I would much rather practice now then when I need the skill.

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It was explained to me that you play the fish from the reel, so that's what I have to go by......
Whomever said that was not talking about a clicker style (dragless) reel. And read Fred's post again, guys routinely land large fish holding the line.
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Default Re: No drag? A reel drag?

I'm 99% self taught with some input from some polite people stream side that must felt sorry for me for looking so silly trying to fly fish.

That's why I ask so many very newbie type questions, I only know enough to get myself in lots of trouble.
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