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Old 11-24-2009, 10:29 PM
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Default Converting 10' 8wt rod into switch rod

I have a redington cpx 1084 - 10' 8wt 4piece. It is a very good rod but lately I was thinking about converting it to a switch by changing the handle and butt. I'm checking here to get opinions on this - good and bad. If I want to proceed any advice or instructions on how to do it? Thanks.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:53 AM
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I'm thinkin' that if your rod has a screw-on fighting butt, you could just buy a longer butt and switch it
I took a quick look at the Mudhole site. I didn't see one pre made but they had a screw on shaft that you could build on.
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Good idea, I have a 10' 8 wt. Orvis and it has the screw on 2" butt. Wonder if they all use a Universal thread.
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Why, for one thing the taper is not right. Switch rods are built on a special taper designed for the longer butt section. Taking a standard rod and converting it over will not be a switch rod just a standard rod with a long grip. Keep the rod as it and buy or build a real switch rod.
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You are right, plus the front grip would be short for the spey casting motion.
I guess I just want a longer fighting butt.
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Why, for one thing the taper is not right. Switch rods are built on a special taper designed for the longer butt section. Taking a standard rod and converting it over will not be a switch rod just a standard rod with a long grip. Keep the rod as it and buy or build a real switch rod.
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It would be much easier to start from scratch with an actual switch rod blank. The blank should go through the butt which means you would have to move the seat. This is easier said than done. Especially if it is a wood insert seat. I promise you, if it is a wood insert seat, it will take some serious cosmetic abuse before you get it loose. Then when you put the longer grip on, this means you have to remove and then replace all the guides on that section. Then you will probably have to do the same thing on the other sections just to make things match. Then there is the taper of the blank. You don't have a switch rod blank there. Then what line are you going to use for the rod? It's not like you can look up the grain window for that rod blank as a switch rod. You may get lucky first try and you may not. What does a line go for now days compared to the blank. Any savings could be gone in just a few attempts at getting a line that works. Trust me when I say, this is a can of worms best left closed. Go buy a switch rod blank. In the end you will have two good rods instead of one bad one.
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I'm thinkin' that if your rod has a screw-on fighting butt, you could just buy a longer butt and switch it
I took a quick look at the Mudhole site. I didn't see one pre made but they had a screw on shaft that you could build on.
These are the rods that Kenny Abrams sells on his StriperMoon website
They come with the two butts that you can switch out for using with either one or two hands
.... exactly what I had in mind

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Default Re: Converting 10' 8wt rod into switch rod

Have you tried a 2 hand cast to see if it will perform for spey casting?
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