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nick k 03-28-2013 01:24 PM

Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
Hey all. I'm considering trying my hand at rod building more and more every day now. I was wondering if you guys suggest starting with some sort of kit, or buying the components separately?

A kicker question, and this may be a stupid one, do blanks come with the male and female ends (as in, the connection holes) already created, or is that something you have to do? I was looking through components today and saw ferrules, and didn't quite understand what they were. I thought a ferrule was just a finished blank.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

jpbfly 03-28-2013 02:32 PM

Re: Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
Do you plan to build a graphite or bamboo rod?....Don't think you'll have to make holes anyway...

nick k 03-28-2013 02:35 PM

Re: Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
Graphite. Id probably start with some cheap stuff (like Anglers Roost blanks and components) until I know that I can actually successfully make a rod.

jpbfly 03-28-2013 02:41 PM

Re: Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
Well the pieces you'll get will be ready to use...you'll have to add a grip,a reel seat,and guides;)hope you'll post pics of your work;)
Some of our rod building specialists should give more details soon:)

nick k 03-28-2013 02:43 PM

Re: Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
Thanks for the info. If I build a rod myself, will it perform the same as a factory rod of the same blanks, just look different? Or can building a rod yourself change its performance?

I will definitely post pics if I finally decide to jump in and do it. Seems like a very intimidating process.

jpbfly 03-28-2013 02:46 PM

Re: Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
Rod building may change performance...before more qualified members than me reply...have a look here meanwhile
Build a rod - Intro: How to build a rod step-by-step, select components, mount, wrap, coat and test a fly rod - Global FlyFisher

nick k 03-28-2013 02:49 PM

Re: Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
Thanks jp. Looks like a great resource. I'll give it a heavy look.

Guest1 03-28-2013 02:57 PM

Re: Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nick k (Post 541656)
If I build a rod myself, will it perform the same as a factory rod of the same blanks, just look different? Or can building a rod yourself change its performance?.

Depends on the factory rod. Like Sage, who builds on straightest visual line, if you build it on the spine yours should perform better than theirs. If it's a factory that builds on the spine, then there should be no difference. Even if you built it on straightest visual line as Sage does, it would not matter for at least 95% of casters.

There is also things like the size of the guides, and there is some debate on how that effects it. Larger guides are thought to reduce friction on the line and get you more distance, but larger guides effect how the blank behaves. I don't think it effects it in any significant way myself, especially in the bottom half or better of the rod. I think you gain more than you lose by not using tiny snake guides. Most of this stuff tends be way overthought.

I'd buy the parts sepererate unless you see a kit that has everything exactly like you want it. The odds of that are pretty slim. The whole idea of building it yourself is so that it's the way you want it, not how the guy that tossed the kit together thought most people would settle for.

williamhj 03-28-2013 05:21 PM

Re: Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
I second getting the components yourself. Partly because it lets you customize exactly what you want and partly because guides that come in kits might require a lot more prep work than some guides you can buy. If you're concerned about getting everything you need, just ask away. There are a lot of people who can help. Some with a lot of experience, others of us just build some for ourselves here and there.

My advice is to do some reading. I got several books through the library (some through inter-library loan came from other states) and they were very helpful. They gave me an overview of the steps involved and visuals on the various components. There are a lot of resources online but a book gives it to you in one place, step by step. The one I found the most helpful personally was Fly Rod Building Made Easy by Art Scheck though there are others out there.

fredaevans 03-29-2013 09:11 AM

Re: Starting out: kit or separate purchases?
 
For the 'bits and pieces' Google Angler's Workshop; been in the rod building business for decades. Thousands of 'things' to choose from. Been a long time since I've built a rod, but the 'hard part' is the handle and cork.

If this is your first I'd recommend you purchase a pre-made cork handle. Reason being that to start with 'rings' you need a lathe to properly run that down.


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