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Old 08-19-2010, 09:48 PM
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I just received my order from Hook & Hackle and I'm quite anxious to start building my rod, but I'm still waiting on my new wrapper and dryer to arrive.

In the mean time I'd like to ask for a 9' 4wt did I purchase the right size guide set?

They are Titanium- One Size 12 stripper, one Size 10 stripper, two size 3 snakes, three size 2 snakes, and three size 1 snakes.

I also received an extra Large Titanium Tip Top which I think I should exchange for a standard.

One more thing are Titanium Guides the same thing as Tich?
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Default Re: Guides for 9' 4wt

Did I read that right? You have eleven (11) guides on one rod?
I'm new to FF and have zip knowledge, but that seems like a whole lot and is more than I have seen on rods I have been shopping.
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The rod I'm building now is a 7' 4/5# 3piece glass rod, and I'm using 9 guides (plus a tip top) on it. Check manufacturers recommendations, but if Ron said that's what you need for THAT 9 ft'er, use 'em. It'll cast beautifully.
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Default Re: Guides for 9' 4wt

Your replies made me take a double take.

I bought a Titanium Guide kit from Hook & Hackle that said it was for a 9'-9'6" rod. Plus Tip Top. So the tenth guide must be for if I had a 9'6"4wt?

My blank is a 9' 4wt I have an extra guide to use on the next rod I build.

Is my understanding correct that you are supposed to have one guide for every foot of blank length plus Tip Top?

I planed to use 9 guides + 1 Tip Top:

2 stripping guides: One size 12 & One size 10

7 Snake guides: Two size 3, Three size 2, Two size 1

1 Tip Top.

I didn't realize until now that Hook & Hackle sold me an extra size 1 snake guide in the Guide Kit.

I guess I've got an extra for the next rod I build after this one is finished.

Does this seem right now? Sorry for the confusion I caused.
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Default Re: Guides for 9' 4wt

Try this:

Rod Length and Guide Placement from the Tip Down to Center of Guide (in inches)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
6 1/2' 4 9 15 21 28 35.5 45
7' 4 9 14 19.5 25.5 32.5 40.5 50
7 1/3' 4.5 9.75 15.75 22.5 30 38.25 47.25 57
7 1/2' 4.5 9.5 15.75 22.5 30 38.5 48.5 59
7 3/4' 4.5 9.5 15.75 22.5 30 37.5 45.5 54.5 65.5
8' 4.5 9 15.25 21.75 29 37 45.75 55.25 65.5
8 1/2' 4 9 15 22 30 39 49 60 71
9' 4.5 9.5 15.25 21.75 29 36.5 44.75 54 64.5 76
9 1/2' 4.5 9 14.5 21 28.5 37 47 57 70 83
10' 4.5 9.75 15.75 22.75 30.75 39.25 48.25 57.5 67.75 78 89


**NOTES: On longer fly rods (8 1/2' and longer) 2 stripping guides are usually used, whereas only one stripping guide is usually used on shorter rods. The balance of the guides are running guides (snake guides or Pacific Bay single foot guides of the builder's choice).
Guides are usually tapered from the size opening of the stripping guide down to the size opening of the tip top. The choice of guide sizes is pretty much up to the desires of the rod builder. Many rod builders begin with a 10mm stripping guide on shorter rods and taper the running guides down to a 7mm tip top ending. Longer rods are tapered from 12mm stripping guides.

Where the numbers are highlighted for the 9' rod blank ... 10 plus the tip top.
And,under notes; longer fly rods ... 2 stripping guides are usually used

This information is from Hook and Hackle..
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