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Old 08-31-2009, 06:10 PM
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Default St. Croix Legend Elite, Sage Z Axis, or ????

Guys, I'm pretty new at this. Two years ago I took up fly fishing. I attended a fly fishing 101 class at the local junior college, have taken lessons/guided services the past two years in Colorado, and practice casting very regularly in local water here. I'm five years from retirement and know that the amount of time I am devoting to the sport now will only increase when I have unlimited time. My beginning rod has been a St. Croix Reign 9'0" 5 weight on the recommendation of a friend. I mention all of this because the opportunity to move up to better rod has been put in my lap and the St. Croix Legend Elite and Sage Z Axis have been recommended. I know I need to go to a shop and cast them (and others) to compare, but do any of you have any recommendations about these rods or others at those price points? Thanks in advance.
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Default Re: St. Croix Legend Elite, Sage Z Axis, or ????

The Z-Axis could be a good fit, but its action will be a good bit different than the Reign you're used to. You'd be best off going to a shop that carries multiple great brands and get their advice on which kind of rod best suits your casting stroke. You might even be better off with something with a slower action like a Scott G2 or a Winston WT or LT.
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Default Re: St. Croix Legend Elite, Sage Z Axis, or ????

I'd take a look at the Sage ZXL rods as well. They are a bit more responsive
and sensitive than the Z-Axis, at least for me. Both of these rods like to do the
work for you, and don't respond well to brute force .
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Default Re: St. Croix Legend Elite, Sage Z Axis, or ????

I had a st croix reign rod and the z axis is totally different, its alot faster and if your not used to it , its hard to short cast it at least for me. The st croix ultra might be worth a look its slower then the elite but faster then the reign.
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Default Re: St. Croix Legend Elite, Sage Z Axis, or ????

I love my 6 wt. Z-axis. While considered a fast rod, it is not as stiff as most fast rods so that you a feel it load. The rod has a tremendous amount of energy. Works well for dry, nymph and streamer. True, it's not as delicate as my ZXL, but it will do short casts. Great in the wind.
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I have sold a lot of Z-Axis rods to guys who came off of medium-fast action rods because the Z-Axis is not quite as stiff. With the right line, it's easy to throw 15 feet of line off the tip to a fish that is 30 to 40 feet away. I recommend the Rio Grand or the SA Mastery GPX.

Of course, the decision is going to be based off which rod works better for your stroke. There are a lot of good recommendations in this thread. Another rod to throw into the mix is a Winston B2X. It's another fast rod that isn't too fast.

Here's an informerical for the Sage Z-Axis.
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Thanks for all of the input. I was in St. Louis last weekend and went to Feathercraft where I tried out the Winston BIIX, Sage Z Axis, ZXL, and Launch, and the G. Loomis Eastfork. They didn't have the SC Legend Elite in stock. All great rods, but I kind of liked the feel of the Sage Z Axis and the GL Eastfork. Gonna try out some more this weekend.
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Thanks for all of the input. I was in St. Louis last weekend and went to Feathercraft where I tried out the Winston BIIX, Sage Z Axis, ZXL, and Launch, and the G. Loomis Eastfork. They didn't have the SC Legend Elite in stock. All great rods, but I kind of liked the feel of the Sage Z Axis and the GL Eastfork. Gonna try out some more this weekend.
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You are doing the right thing by trying out different rods. Eventually, you will narrow it down to the rod that feels best to you.

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Default Re: St. Croix Legend Elite, Sage Z Axis, or ????

Thanks for all of the advice. I went back to Feathercraft this past weekend and got to compare the SC Legend Elite with the BIIX and the Z-Axis. I like the way my cast felt with the Legend and liked the weight. I decided to buy the Legend and am looking forward to trying it out on the water. Thanks again.
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Enjoy your new rod. I hope that you catch a lot of fish with it.

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