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Old 11-13-2009, 05:19 PM
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Default RL winston Boron IIx...

I've decided to ask this on here as I will hopefully be able to get an opinion from across the pond.

I've seen a couple of used RL winston Boron IIx's (9ft #5's) for sale on the net, I can't try one out unfortunately (as the nearest Winston dealer is nearly 200 miles away ).

So my question is, what is the action like on these rods? How would this action compare to the likes of the Scott S4 or the Sage Z-axis (i.e slower, faster)? I only want the rod for general nymphing and dry flies on stillwaters using a floating line. It would also come in handy for the hill tarns during the summer.
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:09 PM
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I have this rod but haven't cast the Scott S4 to compare it to.
The BIIx works extremely well for me. Once I learned to use the tip for shorter casts and let the tip get out of the way for long casts it simply blew me away.
It really is, to me anyhow, like having three 5 weight rods rolled into one.
For nymphing you will enjoy the light weight but the downfall might be on setting the hook with just a twitch. It is not a stiff, fast rod in the normal sense.
Even though I also have the 5 weight in a BIImX, I would buy the BIIx again in a heartbeat.
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Default Re: RL winston Boron IIx...

Thanks Jackster, your comments have certainly fired up my interest.
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Old 11-15-2009, 06:04 AM
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Default Re: RL winston Boron IIx...

I fish a 9'0" Sage Z-Axis as my "go to" rod for mid-sized streams and rivers; I don't stillwater fish much at all. It's very good rod, with what I'd call a fast action. It works well with dries, streamers, foam terrestrials, nymphs (both weighted and unweighted) and furry Prairie Dog-sized flies. It has a pretty good feel to it; particularly at long distances and has tons of reserve backbone for when you hook into larger fish. I've fished it for 3 years now and I've been happy with the way that the blank works for me. I'm sure that you know the rod well, but here it is again:

http://www.sageflyfish.com/dyn_prodlist.php?k=242758

As an aside, I like the Z-Axis a lot better in a 5 wt. than I do the Sage TCX. I cast that rod in 5, 6 and 7 wts. and the heavier the blank, the more I like it. It's what I would call an ultra-fast rod and in a 7 wt. I liked it enough to purchase one and it's now my standard Smallmouth bass rod.

http://www.sageflyfish.com/dyn_prodlist.php?k=242753

I haven't cast the Scott S4, but understand that it's billed by the manufacturer as a fast action rod. I do have a good amount of experience with their new A3 blank. I cast it this Summer in a 7, 8, 9 and 10 wt. and I like the 9'0" 9 wt. enough to make it my regular rod for fishing Stripers in and around the Kennebec River in Maine. It's a medium action rod with a wonderful feel for heavy payloads and when fishing with a lot of wind.

http://www.scottflyrod.com/rods2/a3

But, my wife fishes a Winston BIIx 8'6" 5 wt. and, to be totally transparent on the topic of your question, the minute she puts her rod down, I pick it up! There's just something about that rod; the lightness in the hand, the feel, the presentations, etc. I don't know what Winston put into their BIIx technology, but they have a very, very nice blank there in my opinion.

http://www.winstonrods.com/boronIIx.html

I don't think that you would be disappointed with the performance of a BIIx in a 5 wt. Good luck!

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---------- Post added at 07:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 AM ----------

I would add that the action on the Winston BIIx is, for me, medium-fast.

So the action sequence on the rods above would be:

TCX - ultra-fast
Z-Axis - fast
BIIx - medium fast (tending more toward fast)
A3 - medium fast (tending more toward medium)
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Default Re: RL winston Boron IIx...

Thanks for your input Pocono, the action of the Winston sounds like what I'm after. I need something that can be used at fairly short range without 'boucing' fish off, yet be able to deliver a decent cast.
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Default Re: RL winston Boron IIx...

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Thanks for your input Pocono, the action of the Winston sounds like what I'm after. I need something that can be used at fairly short range without 'boucing' fish off, yet be able to deliver a decent cast.
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The BIIX will serve you well for this, I have seen Jackster drop a fly in a cup at 20 ft. and then put out a 100+ ft. cast with his 9 ft. 5 wt. BIIX rod. In my opinion one of the best all round rods on the market.
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Default Re: RL winston Boron IIx...

Is it your Xmas order Luke?you'll be able to put a fly in a thimble at 20ft with that rod
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Default Re: RL winston Boron IIx...

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The BIIX will serve you well for this, I have seen Jackster drop a fly in a cup at 20 ft. and then put out a 100+ ft. cast with his 9 ft. 5 wt. BIIX rod. In my opinion one of the best all round rods on the market.
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Is it your Xmas order Luke?you'll be able to put a fly in a thimble at 20ft with that rod
Yep, it's for christmas, more and more of my stillwater fishing is being done with natural patterns now so I use a 9ft #5 most of the time.
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Default Re: RL winston Boron IIx...

I don't have the 5 weight, but I do have the 6 weight and the 8 weight and they are unbelievable.
I have used the 8 weight on waters that have 12" fish before. It is so sensitive and feels lighter than most 5 weights.
I agree, you can't go wrong!!!!
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Default Re: RL winston Boron IIx...

I tried and loved the BIIX. However, when I actually used it to nymph fish I couldn't hook set worth a hoot. Matter of fact I snag hooked 3/4 of my fish with it nymphing. (did the same with the Scott G)

If I were to have another top water rod I believe the BIIX is one of the sweetest rod out there. It just wasn't for me and I sold mine because I Nymph fish 95% of the time
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