Rating rods by rolling dice.

[imxer]

flyguy66

Interesting info- about the industry. Thanks

imxer

[mojo]

Originally Posted by flyguy66

Imxer,

Gary now works for TFO. And they are extremely customer service oriented. I'll bet that if you called or emailed TFO via their website with your question directed to Gary, you will eventually get your answer straight from the source.

I understood he's working/owns North Fork Composites, and Jason Borger is also in on it.
http://northforkcomposites.com/blog/about-the-nfc-crew/
As far as TFO goes, he's going to be designing inexpensive spinning and casting rods.

[webrx]

Sorry to revive this old thread, but I had a question or two about the common cents system, and a comment made by Mojo on this thread.

I tested a bunch of my rods today, and while my Griggs and my Redington 3 wts, came out as 3 weights, just about dead on, almost every one of my 5 weights came up as 4 weights. I should note the 5 weights are longer, and I had to angle the rod tip up a little to ensure I had enough room for inflection. This leads me to my question - based on Mojo's comment. Mojo stated you have to do the CCS test exactly right, and I am wondering if angling the rod tip up before loading it was why I was seeing all my 5 weight (longer rods) coming up with a CCS that was a full size lower then the rating?

Also, I have not done the AA part of the test, but if I understand it correctly, you simply measure height, add pennies, and then count the pennies and correspond this to the chart to get the ERN. I am coming up with around 35 to 37 pennies on most of my longer rods making them 4.16 to 4.46 ERNs. Am I missing something?

The good thing about this was I was able to at least get a ballpark weight on my jorgensen bamboo rod, and I had another rod I picked up on craigs list that had no markings, turns out it is a dead 3 weight also. The 6 weight SA rod I got (again slanted slightly up) measured out at 4.46 though, so I am thinking I am doing something wrong.

Thanks for any help

Dave

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[mojo]

Originally Posted by webrx

Sorry to revive this old thread, but I had a question or two about the common cents system, and a comment made by Mojo on this thread.

I tested a bunch of my rods today, and while my Griggs and my Redington 3 wts, came out as 3 weights, just about dead on, almost every one of my 5 weights came up as 4 weights. I should note the 5 weights are longer, and I had to angle the rod tip up a little to ensure I had enough room for inflection. This leads me to my question - based on Mojo's comment. Mojo stated you have to do the CCS test exactly right, and I am wondering if angling the rod tip up before loading it was why I was seeing all my 5 weight (longer rods) coming up with a CCS that was a full size lower then the rating?

Also, I have not done the AA part of the test, but if I understand it correctly, you simply measure height, add pennies, and then count the pennies and correspond this to the chart to get the ERN. I am coming up with around 35 to 37 pennies on most of my longer rods making them 4.16 to 4.46 ERNs. Am I missing something?

The good thing about this was I was able to at least get a ballpark weight on my jorgensen bamboo rod, and I had another rod I picked up on craigs list that had no markings, turns out it is a dead 3 weight also. The 6 weight SA rod I got (again slanted slightly up) measured out at 4.46 though, so I am thinking I am doing something wrong.

Thanks for any help

Dave

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The rods have to be horizontal for accuracy. I also am under the impression that the CCS was designed only for graphite rods. Not cane or glass. I might be wrong, but it seems logical.
Edit- I checked it over again, and I don't see why it can't be used for cane, glass, graphite, or greenheart.
Also if you put your rod horizontal, and you have a ultra fine grip or reverse half wells, you have to shim it up so the rod remains horizontal. I'm thinking that's what you were describing, correct?