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Old 05-16-2010, 09:30 PM
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Question Listed line weights on rod */*

I'm confused. I know that the first number is supposed to be the suggested weight for a double taper, and the second one for WF, right so far?
ah, so why?
On my Greys its listed at 3/4.
So a DT3 is about the same as a WF4?
Then is a WF2 close to a DT3??

I recall 30' of #3 is about 100 grains, and #4 is 120 grains...what the hell??
so, the stick can handle a variation of +- 20 grains, cool, so why not list it thus (like a sticker that says 100-120) vs. DT/WF? Or is this a dinosaur hang over like "dialing" a phone?

if you can splain it to me Lucy, thanks in advance.
Oh, and I googled for half an hour before giving up and asking here.
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Default Re: Listed line weights on rod */*

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I'm confused. I know that the first number is supposed to be the suggested weight for a double taper, and the second one for WF, right so far?
ah, so why?
On my Greys its listed at 3/4.
So a DT3 is about the same as a WF4?
Then is a WF2 close to a DT3??

I recall 30' of #3 is about 100 grains, and #4 is 120 grains...what the hell??
so, the stick can handle a variation of +- 20 grains, cool, so why not list it thus (like a sticker that says 100-120) vs. DT/WF? Or is this a dinosaur hang over like "dialing" a phone?

if you can splain it to me Lucy, thanks in advance.
Oh, and I googled for half an hour before giving up and asking here.
As far as I know, these "split weight rods" are simply what you've described. I don't see too many of these anymore. My buddy had a few redingtons (Red.Fly and Crosswater Series) from the late '90s that were split rated. Since then, I think they've gone to single line ratings.
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The rod companies stopped putting the double ratings on rods because they don't want you to know that your one rod can handle multiple line weights

How else are they going to get you to buy both a 5 and a 6 weight ?
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Default Re: Listed line weights on rod */*

Ok, so its less of a "your rod can handle a DT3 OR a WF4" and more of a your rod can likely handle anything a size up or down from whatever the maker says not paying attention to the kind of line?
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I'm confused. I know that the first number is supposed to be the suggested weight for a double taper, and the second one for WF, right so far?
ah, so why?
On my Greys its listed at 3/4.
So a DT3 is about the same as a WF4?
Then is a WF2 close to a DT3??

I recall 30' of #3 is about 100 grains, and #4 is 120 grains...what the hell??
so, the stick can handle a variation of +- 20 grains, cool, so why not list it thus (like a sticker that says 100-120) vs. DT/WF? Or is this a dinosaur hang over like "dialing" a phone?

if you can splain it to me Lucy, thanks in advance.
Oh, and I googled for half an hour before giving up and asking here.
cwg,
Don't try to overthink line technicalities. You will go blue in the face.

Since you wrote this, here is the best explanation that I can give you.

What happens to the grain weight of the line after you get past 30 feet on each line? For a weight forward line either your taper stops there, or the taper starts narrowing down. The increase in grain weight gets smaller as the taper gets closer to the running portion of it. On a double taper, the line stays level. The increase in grain weight stays constant because the line diameter stays constant until the line gets to to back end.

Why are these lines still around? For roll casting, there is still line more line mass to carry its momentum. In a weight forward line, there is less mass to carry its momentum. For mending, it is easier to manage a thicker belly that a thin one because the the extra mass of the line can put more of a load into the rod to get that line out.

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Default Re: Listed line weights on rod */*

well actually that DID explain it.
thanks
I understand now, more so, why the second number would be for a WF line due to the larger strain on the rod- more mass out etc
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