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Old 12-15-2011, 09:54 PM
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I love my Sage rods. I have 5 of them. But relatively speaking, I'm new to the game of premium fly rods. I fished St. Croix Imperial, Avid, Premier rods and before that some rods I don't even remember the names of... I still have those old St. Croix rods except my old 9 ft. 5/6 wt. 2 pc. that my nephew has now. I don't fish 'em... but I don't part with them.

I have no interest in the Sage One (well maybe a little). I have too much invested in recent Sage rods. But I do have interest in older Sage rods. The problem is, I'm having a heck of a time researching them - the LL series, which I believe had the Graphite II and III blanks, RPL, SLT, SP, RPLX. There are a ton. Does anyone know a resource for information on these older rods and blanks? What the difference was between Graphite II, III, IIIe, and such.

I love my Z-Axis Rods - they suit me in certain situations. I have a 6 wt. XP that I've not fished yet (my first foray into "older" Sage rods but relatively young when you go back to the late 80's early 90's sticks). I have fished my buddy's 3 wt. XP - awesome stick. But my favorite Sage rod is my 8 1/2 ft. ZXL. A dream. This leads me to believe, based on my research, that I might love fishing the SLT series and I'm considering a 490-4 SLT when I need the extra 6" but don't want to go to a Z-Axis. I'm thinking about searching for a 3 wt' LL series to fish when I don't want to throw my 8'8" Loop Opti Creek outfit but do I want a LL with the Graphite II or III...

It's hard to buy a rod without throwing one, but I enjoy the hunt and learning about gear as well. So if anyone has any direction where I can dig through old reviews to get opinions, I'm all ears

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Old 12-16-2011, 01:02 PM
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last paragraph talks about graphite modulus.

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This is a good source.

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When the LL series was discontinued, Sage continued to produce it as the VPS Light. The RPL was disconitnued and produced as the VPS.

I owned both RPL's and LL's including the Sage RPL 590-4 and the Sage LL 389.
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Hey Mike, let me know if you don't like the 6wt XP.
For the water here, and our style, it is my favorite ever.
I will try and wait patiently till they make something as good.
I think the 99 was a first step in that direction.
They have figured out that indy style isn't best served with a dry fly type presentation.

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Hey Mike, let me know if you don't like the 6wt XP.
For the water here, and our style, it is my favorite ever.
I will try and wait patiently till they make something as good.
I think the 99 was a first step in that direction.
They have figured out that indy style isn't best served with a dry fly type presentation.

Jim
Ah, Jim. I was on the hunt for a 6 wt. for a while. I'm hoping that I found it

Sage has a new "European Nymph" rod out now... I've not seen one live yet.
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Now that your search is over, I hope it's true love.
The XP was too stiff for most folks flinging a dry fly. Which I think is why they discontinued it. Maybe losing dryfly market to Winston....
(The Z-axis is too soft a tip for indy, for my taste.)
Changing my stroke, made the XP work fine for me on dries. But mostly to me, it's an indy/streamer rod.

I have fished the Grey's rods, for the euro thing.
Called the Sage rep to see what's up along those lines...?
I'll let you know.

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Mike,
I owned a 490-3 SP several years ago. It was my go to dry fly rod at the time. After being discontinued for a few years, I got a call from the shop. A guy said that he had to have one. I ended up selling it for some shop credit. I tried fishing a 490-4 SLT, but it did not have the wow factor to justify buying one. I heard that there was a new rod coming from Sage, so I decided to waited until the ZXL came out. I am glad that I waited.

What I like about the ZXL over the SLT in the 9 foot 4 weight configuration is that the ZXL has a lighter and crisper feel which matched my tempo better. I feel everything with that rod in every step of the cast. When I made my first cast, everything just felt right from the feel of the grip to the load in the rod.

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What I like about the ZXL over the SLT in the 9 foot 4 weight configuration is that the ZXL has a lighter and crisper feel which matched my tempo better. I feel everything with that rod in every step of the cast. When I made my first cast, everything just felt right from the feel of the grip to the load in the rod.
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YEAH MAN!!! My ZXL 4wt casts like a wire-guided missile. In windy conditions, I can make corrections just before the fly lands. Excellent rod, and I would be content fishing a ZXL for the rest of my life.
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