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chi flyfisher 12-28-2011 09:20 PM

Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
I've been looking at a number of different Sage rods. As I continue to kill time this winter while I can't fish for trout, I've been researching fly rods and making the occasional purchase :thmbup::thmbup: I've been looking hard at SLT rods and am interested in the comparison between the SLT and the ZXL. I understand the ZXL to be the rod that replaced the SLT - can anyone comment who has fished both rods on their similarities/differences?

Your comments are appreciated!

Cheers,
Mike.

dean_mt 12-28-2011 10:40 PM

Re: Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
Hi Mike, I can't make the comparison because I have never fished a ZXL but I have been fishing the SLT for many years. I love it. I can only assume that the ZXL is a bit faster, since that is the way rods are "improved" it seems.

What do you fish with now? What is your casting style? What size rod are you looking at? Sorry for all the questions...one more, how is the Chicago winter this year? I grew up straight across the lake, I pity you having to winter in Chicago.

MoscaPescador 12-28-2011 10:40 PM

Re: Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
Hey Mike,
Here's a comment that I put in one of your threads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoscaPescador (Post 366169)
What I like about the ZXL over the SLT in the 9 foot 4 weight configuration is that the ZXL has a lighter and crisper feel which matched my tempo better. I feel everything with that rod in every step of the cast. When I made my first cast, everything just felt right from the feel of the grip to the load in the rod.

Dennis

chi flyfisher 12-29-2011 06:55 AM

Re: Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoscaPescador (Post 370662)
Hey Mike,
Here's a comment that I put in one of your threads.



Dennis

Yea I love that ZXL feel, Dennis. It's a rod that sings to me when I cast it.

---------- Post added at 06:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 AM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean_mt (Post 370661)
Hi Mike, I can't make the comparison because I have never fished a ZXL but I have been fishing the SLT for many years. I love it. I can only assume that the ZXL is a bit faster, since that is the way rods are "improved" it seems.

What do you fish with now? What is your casting style? What size rod are you looking at? Sorry for all the questions...one more, how is the Chicago winter this year? I grew up straight across the lake, I pity you having to winter in Chicago.

I fish the following as my primary trout rods in WI for trout:
388-4 Loop Opti Creek - dry flies, small nymph high sticking, small indie fishing. A blast to fish and a great rod to boot.
486-4 Sage ZXL - My primary fly rod for nymphing size 12 and under and dry fly fishing.
490-4 Sage Z-Axis - use it when I'm on water that I want to throw more line, small streamer fishing, indie nymphing and dry fly fishing
590-5 Sage Z-Axis - When "the fan" is on all day. Streamers, larger multi nymph rigs.... but it can really do it all. I don't use this rod for a lot of WI fishing because it's a lot of rod for the size fish I'm catching. Primary western rod for larger rivers in CO and the Sierras.

Steel and Salmon rods are another story...

I was looking at a SLT to slide in to the 3 wt. 4 wt. category. I bought a Sage 389 LL and would pounce on a good deal for a ZXL 3 wt. in a second. But a SLT in a 3 might be a nice stick. I started looking for some older Sage rods from a collector perspective but most importantly, as a fisher perspective. If there's a place in the quiver for one, I think they're a beautiful stick. But if they're "that close" to the ZXL, I'm not going to add one, and I'm going to add a 3 wt. ZXL and a 5 wt. ZXL because I love the one I fish so much.

The Chicago winter has been quite mild so far this year - as Chicago winter's go. No snow yet and I've only put on the hat and gloves a couple of times so far. Only in the teens once so far... I'll be fishing this weekend in WI for Steel... they're not frozen yet. They were iced solid this time last year. Hope it stays this way :D

With respect casting style, I like medium fast rods/fast rods... but I want to vary my stroke, fish rods that are a little slower, bend deeper in the blank... which is one of the reasons I'm looking at rods outside of my "confort zone." To me, it's about learning and experiencing different things on the water... the rod choice is another part of the equation to say... do I want to soften it up a bit today... who knows. Maybe I'm just OCD and bored so I'm buying fishing gear.

Cheers,
Mike.

dean_mt 12-29-2011 09:24 AM

Re: Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chi flyfisher (Post 370741)
Yea I love that ZXL feel, Dennis. It's a rod that sings to me when I cast it.

---------- Post added at 06:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 AM ----------



I fish the following as my primary trout rods in WI for trout:
388-4 Loop Opti Creek - dry flies, small nymph high sticking, small indie fishing. A blast to fish and a great rod to boot.
486-4 Sage ZXL - My primary fly rod for nymphing size 12 and under and dry fly fishing.
490-4 Sage Z-Axis - use it when I'm on water that I want to throw more line, small streamer fishing, indie nymphing and dry fly fishing
590-5 Sage Z-Axis - When "the fan" is on all day. Streamers, larger multi nymph rigs.... but it can really do it all. I don't use this rod for a lot of WI fishing because it's a lot of rod for the size fish I'm catching. Primary western rod for larger rivers in CO and the Sierras.

Steel and Salmon rods are another story...

I was looking at a SLT to slide in to the 3 wt. 4 wt. category. I bought a Sage 389 LL and would pounce on a good deal for a ZXL 3 wt. in a second. But a SLT in a 3 might be a nice stick. I started looking for some older Sage rods from a collector perspective but most importantly, as a fisher perspective. If there's a place in the quiver for one, I think they're a beautiful stick. But if they're "that close" to the ZXL, I'm not going to add one, and I'm going to add a 3 wt. ZXL and a 5 wt. ZXL because I love the one I fish so much.

The Chicago winter has been quite mild so far this year - as Chicago winter's go. No snow yet and I've only put on the hat and gloves a couple of times so far. Only in the teens once so far... I'll be fishing this weekend in WI for Steel... they're not frozen yet. They were iced solid this time last year. Hope it stays this way :D

With respect casting style, I like medium fast rods/fast rods... but I want to vary my stroke, fish rods that are a little slower, bend deeper in the blank... which is one of the reasons I'm looking at rods outside of my "confort zone." To me, it's about learning and experiencing different things on the water... the rod choice is another part of the equation to say... do I want to soften it up a bit today... who knows. Maybe I'm just OCD and bored so I'm buying fishing gear.

Cheers,
Mike.

Well it looks like you have a nice collection of rods! And you just got a 3 WT LL, I imagine that SLT would fall between the LL and ZXL. Another one to look for, since you are so bored, is the SP, which I believe, is the rod after the LL and preceding the SLT. I have a SPL 2wt 8'2". Like casting nothing! It is so fun to fish dries on small streams...might be perfect for some of those Driftless spring creeks.

chi flyfisher 12-29-2011 11:25 AM

Re: Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dean_mt (Post 370759)
Another one to look for, since you are so bored, is the SP, which I believe, is the rod after the LL and preceding the SLT. I have a SPL 2wt 8'2". Like casting nothing! It is so fun to fish dries on small streams...might be perfect for some of those Driftless spring creeks.

I've had way too much boredom the past couple of weeks. Have a 589-5 SP on the way. Christmas gift from my lovely wife :) Not necessarily a Driftless stream rod (I don't think)... but she wanted to know what I wanted for Christmas!!!!

racine 01-30-2012 06:05 PM

Re: Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
I got my SLT 2 years ago in a 3wt 7'6" for small streams and trout. Everytime I fish with it I am amazed how sensitive, accurate and responsive that rod is. It is a medium action that I seem to appreciate these days for drys and spooky fish. My next rod would be a 4 or 5 wt BIIX, ZXL or Z Axis.

chicagojohn 01-30-2012 07:51 PM

Re: Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by racine (Post 388189)
I got my SLT 2 years ago in a 3wt 7'6" for small streams and trout. Everytime I fish with it I am amazed how sensitive, accurate and responsive that rod is. It is a medium action that I seem to appreciate these days for drys and spooky fish. My next rod would be a 4 or 5 wt BIIX, ZXL or Z Axis.

I have an 8 foot, 4 weight BIIX. I can cast everything from tiny olives to chernobyl ants. You can also get them for a great price relative to a new BIIIX. If you want the ultimate presentation tool, order a Winston WT in a 4 weight.

I liked the ZXL best out of all the Sage Rods I have cast. I have never had the opportunity to cast a SLT but would like to.

The Echo Carbon 8 foot, 4 weight is also a very nice casting rod for only $169.99. The carbon series has quite a few options for 3 and 4 weights that come with a relatively low price and a full warranty.

billyspey 01-30-2012 08:06 PM

Re: Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
I have been told the 8.5 ,4wt.in zxl is the best in that line tried it didn't like . I like 9'4 wt. in slt much better. I am 4 wt freak for trout I own 6

fishiowa 01-31-2012 10:37 PM

Re: Sage SLT vs. Sage ZXL
 
"But if they're "that close" to the ZXL, I'm not going to add one, and I'm going to add a 3 wt. ZXL and a 5 wt. ZXL because I love the one I fish so much."

I have the 386 ZXL and love it so much I bought the 486 ZXL. They are almost interchangeable, almost too much overlap imo. That being said they are great rods so I don't mind having two that are so similar.

I fish the driftless area also and when I only take two rods it is the 386 ZXL and a 490 Z-Axis.
Rich


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